Safer Food Better Business FOR CHILDMINDERS

Pipsqueak · 15-10-2009, 11:20 AM

The pack is now out and mine has been delivered. Its a LOT skinner and less paperwork than the caterers pack

**miffy** · 15-10-2009, 11:23 AM

I got mine on Tuesday - I think it's a good booklet - written in plain English

There's an interesting bit about food receipts - says although no official guidelines for how long they must be kept they recommend four weeks.

Miffy xx

**angeldelight** · 15-10-2009, 11:44 AM

Got mine too

Have not even looked at it yet though ha

Angel xx

**sarah707** · 15-10-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by miffy

I got mine on Tuesday - I think it's a good booklet - written in plain English

There's an interesting bit about food receipts - says although no official guidelines for how long they must be kept they recommend four weeks.

Miffy xx

Why are you sad Miffy? xx

**dobby** · 15-10-2009, 11:48 AM

Mine has arrived today. Looks interesting and yep alot thinner thank goodness than the original one. have yet to give it a good read though as the 2 new tiddlers i have today are competing for my attendtion constantly -thank goodness for sychronised naps

**miffy** · 15-10-2009, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by sarah707

Why are you sad Miffy? xx

I think someone has been messing with my post.

Miffy xx

**angeldelight** · 15-10-2009, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by miffy

I think someone has been messing with my post.

Miffy xx

What do you mean ??

xxx

**Chatterbox Childcare** · 15-10-2009, 11:53 AM

Not had anything - where has it come from?

**miffy** · 15-10-2009, 11:57 AM

Order it free by e-mailing here

foodstandards@ecgroup.co.uk

Miffy xx

**sarah707** · 15-10-2009, 11:58 AM

Mine arrived about 20 mins ago.

Everyone is off sick today (including me

) so I'll read through it later.

Debbie you need to order it!!

http://childmindinghelp.co.uk/forum/...ighlight=safer

**green puppy** · 15-10-2009, 11:58 AM

you can order it from the food standards agency, sorry don't know how to put a link.

**miffy** · 15-10-2009, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by sarah707

Everyone is off sick today (including me

)

Oh dear! Hope you feel better soon

Miffy xx

**Chatterbox Childcare** · 15-10-2009, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by sarah707

Mine arrived about 20 mins ago.

Everyone is off sick today (including me

) so I'll read through it later.

Debbie you need to order it!!

http://childmindinghelp.co.uk/forum/...ighlight=safer

Ah ha now I have got you - you don't have to order it! It is being sent over the next week by the food agency to every registered childminder

I know something Sarah didn't

**sarah707** · 15-10-2009, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by DebbieS26

Ah ha now I have got you - you don't have to order it! It is being sent over the next week by the food agency to every registered childminder

I know something Sarah didn't

You know lots of things I don't...

I have emailed to ask them some questions about it as I think there are some glaring concerns...

I will feed back when they reply

Pipsqueak · 15-10-2009, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by sarah707

You know lots of things I don't...

I have emailed to ask them some questions about it as I think there are some glaring concerns...

I will feed back when they reply

spill the beans Sarah - what concerns, I haven't had chance to open mine yet

**sarah707** · 15-10-2009, 06:32 PM

Just some initial thoughts... I've not read it all properly yet, only skimmed

Hi, I have just received my pack for childminders - thank you very much.

I am a little concerned and wish to clarify some of the points raised please.

- There does not appear to be any requirement to temperature probe cooked and re-heated food. My partner is a chef in a school and is adamant that this must be done to keep the children safe;

- There does not appear to be any requirement to monitor fridge temperatures, yet I am under the impression Ofsted inspectors regularly ask childminders to show them their fridge temp record sheets. Is this something you are adding to the packs in the future or have Ofsted agreed it is no longer a requirement?

- I cannot find a note of how long the record sheets / diary need to be retained;

- The pack says that childminders who serve up packed lunches do not need to use the pack. Can you please clarify how childminders are covered legally if a child falls ill and the parents say it must have been the childminder not storing food properly because they did everything right? This question links back to the apparent lack of requirement to check fridge temperatures on a daily basis, which I feel is a very dangerous thing when considering domestic fridges.

I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.

Best regards, etc

**miffy** · 15-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by DebbieS26

Ah ha now I have got you - you don't have to order it! It is being sent over the next week by the food agency to every registered childminder

Is it? I didn't know that either

Miffy xx

Pipsqueak · 15-10-2009, 06:45 PM

excellent points Sarah.

I am going to have a read through mine when I can get of the forum!!!
I must admit i have not ever heard of a minder being asked for fridge temps and when I spoke to Enviro health they told me the fridge/freezer thermometers weren't necessary (but a nice touch) nor where food probes.
Will be very interested in the answers

**gegele** · 15-10-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by DebbieS26

I know something Sarah didn't

i'm sooooooo jealouse ah ah ah ah ah ah aha ha

**Chatterbox Childcare** · 15-10-2009, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by miffy

Is it? I didn't know that either

Miffy xx

I rang my local council to see if they are sending them and, surprise surprise, they didn't know anything about them. They rang me back after talkling to another department who said they are going out country wide this week.

Bet we land up ordering them though - lost in post etc...