PPL - childminders do not need a licence to play music!

[loocyloo]

FANTASTIC!

well done penny & sarah and big thank yous.

xxx

(i too like the professional childminders association)

[SandCastles]

Well done ladies

[Rubybubbles]

well done ladies and a big thank you

[buildingblocks]

That is awesome Penny. See, all it needs is someone sensible to talk on our behalf in a calm way and progress is made. You are both stars, and a MAJOR loss to the NCMA!

I so agree with this and the fact that they have done this when it should have been the NCMA doing this on our behalf.

A big thank you to Sarah and Penny for all the hard work you have put in on our behalf

[buildingblocks]

I have to say that once we got to talk to the right people at PPL and explained what childminders do (they weren't sure to start with) and how we work with children and follow a curriculum like schools etc they were more than reasonable.


This saddens me that people still do not know what childminders do when the NCMA should be making aure that people do know)

In fact they were lovely to deal with, always friendly and gave us both lots of time to make sure that they fully understood what we were saying about childminders as educators - rather than just businesses that have music in the background.

I am sure that Penny will agree - it was refreshing to be treated as professionals by them and to be listened to... and of course it's fab that we have the result we knew was right for all childminders

I am presuming it will be okay to send to our development workers to pass onto local childminders mind you they haven't told us we need a license in the first place lol

[Penny1959]

I am presuming it will be okay to send to our development workers to pass onto local childminders mind you they haven't told us we need a license in the first place lol

Yes please do pass on - PPL want as many childminders as possible to know


Penny

[Toothfairy]

Thank you Sarah & Penny for all your hard work, fab news

[JulieA]

Firstly, a BIG thankyou to Penny and Sarah for taking this on.

Secondly, I am still a little confused by the wording on the document (I am ill at the moment so please make allowances!). The first bullet point: "A PPL licence would be applicable if you are using music to entertain........ This may also apply if you use the TV to entertain them. PPL would consider your property to be your place of business".
If I read it that the use of TV or music is used to educate rather than entertain (and let's face it they kind of are wrapped up together) as per EYFS then as a childminder NO licence is required?

I know I am being a bit thick, but am rather poorly and not thinking straight!

[sarah707]

If music is used to educate we do not need a licence.

also any music we listen to for personal / family use does not need a licence.

However if we use music for other purposes we need to contact PPL and check whether or not they want us to have a licence.

I think you will find that the vast majority of the activities you do with little ones are educational... and the rest won't be missed if you cut them out of your daily routines.

Hth

[JulieA]

Thank you Sarah. As I said I have been poorly this week and just kept tying myself in knots with the wording.

I will pass on to our local network to be issued in the newsletter.

Once again, many thanks for your help and support.

[Tink]

Thank you something else we can tick off the list and don't need to pay for

Seriously don't know what I would do without this forum

[VeggieSausage]

Thank you for all your efforts and congrats on your success xx

[Jiorjiina]

That's brilliant news, thank you two so much!

[Carol]

Thank you.....

Next Job is running the country!!!! May Elections soon

Carol

[cherry]

Well Done Sarah and Penny

Thank you for all the hard work you put into sorting this out

[RachelE]

Wow, well done!!

Thank you for all of your hard work, both of you

Rachel x

[Kezzle]

So there I was doing snack time this afternoon when Sarah 707 phoned me - she was very excited and saying 'We have done it, we have done it Penny'


Once she had calmed down (a little) she told me that we had both had an email from the very helpful man at Public Perforance Licence UK

AND - they have added a very important line

A PPL licence would normally also be applicable if your sole use of music is to educate children as instructed by a recognised curriculum. However, although licensable under the terms of the CDPA (1988), PPL chooses not to license the use of its repertoire in a childminder’s home for this purpose

So there we have it - after months of keeping on about this we now have the result we wanted

By now I was just as excited as Sarah - and I think we both need a pat on the back.

I have attatched the new factsheet - please do share with as many as possible as PPL want ALL childminders to know about this.

Penny

Woop! Thats great!

Now what about that one for playing dvds/movies? Do we have to have it?

[sarah707]

Woop! Thats great!

Now what about that one for playing dvds/movies? Do we have to have it?

Nobody has ever said anything about it... let's not muddy the waters

[Penny1959]

Nobody has ever said anything about it... let's not muddy the waters

Agree with Sarah - not going down that road at the moment.

IF - and only IF we get told we need one we will tackle it - but for now lets not even mention it

Penny

[Kezzle]

Mention what?