should i still charge if.....

**Hebs** · 02-02-2009, 01:13 PM

I hope you get a swift reply from Ofsted cos i'd hate you to be over your numbers and them revoke your registration.

good luck

**berkschick** · 02-02-2009, 01:13 PM

What will you do in the meantime while you wait for the variation?

It is a very serious matter if you get caught over your numbers. The minder I know was cautioned and told she could have to go to court

**sammy** · 02-02-2009, 01:22 PM

it looks like i wont have him anyway this week due to snow, so i should hear by next week, but obviously cant have him - its only 2 mornings anyway! silly rules, especially as i wouldnt actually HAVE 4 under 5 anyway

**Jules27** · 02-02-2009, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by sammy

it looks like i wont have him anyway this week due to snow, so i should hear by next week, but obviously cant have him - its only 2 mornings anyway! silly rules, especially as i wouldnt actually HAVE 4 under 5 anyway

Thats Ofsted for you!!! Feel awful now for pointing it out, but would hate for you to get caught out by an un announced visit or something!!!

**Hebs** · 02-02-2009, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by sammy

- its only 2 mornings anyway! silly rules,

I don't think Ofsted see them as silly rules,

rules are rules and wether we agree to them or not we have to follow them, they are after all there to protect the children in our care.

Have they replied to your email??

**berkschick** · 02-02-2009, 01:50 PM

Just a thought, did the email have your signature on it?

Pipsqueak · 02-02-2009, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by sammy

it looks like i wont have him anyway this week due to snow, so i should hear by next week, but obviously cant have him - its only 2 mornings anyway! silly rules, especially as i wouldnt actually HAVE 4 under 5 anyway

sorry Sammy, I will disagree with you here, they aren't silly rules, they are there to keep all children and yourself safe.

I am getting a little confused by what you are saying though. Is the variation for any of the children you currently have? and according to what you have been saying you have been over your numbers while your son has been at nursery by having the other child for 2 mornings a week. the thing is it invalidates your insurances (dangerous position to be in i think). Sorry if I am reading this wrong and have got myself mixed up.

I hope you get your new variation, like I would say I would hate to see Offy come down hard on anyway for breach of regs.

**sammy** · 02-02-2009, 04:10 PM

yes it had my signature on it, ive had variations before and ive applied the same way.

**Hebs** · 02-02-2009, 04:12 PM

i dread ever having to ask for a variation

i wouldn't know what to put

**sammy** · 02-02-2009, 04:21 PM

also im not saying there rules are silly and i will not follow them, i just think its silly to have my son included on my reg if my partner can be responsible for him, he works closer to the nursery than i do, he owns his own business and can leave and get there quicker than me.

I would understand if i was actually caring for all 4 at the same time, that would be important, but i dont think in my circumstances there would be a safety issue as im only with 3 children.

But anyway rules are rules, and i can see what they are saying with "my" numbers. I didnt actually even think about them taking my son into account as i wasnt actually caring for him and no-one has ever pointed it out to me,

**flora** · 02-02-2009, 07:37 PM

I think I can see where you are coming from???? Possibly

My dd comes off my numbers. When I reg I was told if Nige had sole charge of one of my kids then I didn't have to take it off my total number of kids.

We were told this several times by two diff inpsectors. We asked about it in relation to H having friends to t etc.

As we both work from home if nige is having full care of mine then I don't see why I can't use my full quota of spaces for minded kids??

When I was inspected last yr, as already said I can only do this if Nige reg as an assistant.

Which I can sort of see why but at the same time thinks it's a bit barmy

Have I made sense ???

Prob not