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    K1rstie...I wonder if you can clarify a few points
    who is the 'feeler' email from?
    what age is the child?
    are they referring to 30 hours of childcare?...if they are is your LA volunteering the trials or are they the implementers for SEND etc?
    if a child attends 9-3 is that 'full time' at school'?
    what do you mean by saying they have not said what the cost is?

    The policy is still very much 'under construction' and no one knows what will happen so all people here can do is speculate
    You may want to call your EY team and ask them directly ...or call your representing association as no one here will be able to offer a reply.

    Has anyone heard of the recent conference attended by Gyimah about providers 'working together'...the new buzzwortd!!... to get children into school?

    Many cms appear to continue to want to put barriers up against this 30 hours or specify what they want to do or not want to do
    Cms will need to get together locally and work together otherwise it will all be about nurseries.

    CMs will be VITAL in this scheme...it won't work without CMs...finally the penny has dropped at the DfE and with the rest of the sector

    maybe time for cms to start putting forward some positive ideas and challenge the DfE on this....the DfE cannot have it all its way
    For a start we need to know what the funding will be...no one knows yet....not even those trialling the scheme

    Bear in mind that giving 30 hours to 3/4 year olds will leave little space for the 2 year olds whose funding is usually higher.

    Please keep informed
    Hope to see many cms at the various meetings/conferences on this topic putting their opinions forward loud and clear

    In reply to Nat...there are lots of things the DfE has not considered...that is why they are asking for 'innovative' ideas on this scheme...exactly what they asked about Cms agencies...the DfE is driven by ideology and there is little thought behind what they do or any of their policies
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    [QUOTE="Simona;1420242"]K1rstie...I wonder if you can clarify a few points who is the 'feeler' email from? what age is the child? are they referring to 30 hours of childcare?...if they are is your LA volunteering the trials or are they the implementers for SEND etc? if a child attends 9-3 is that 'full time' at school'? what do you mean by saying they have not said what the cost is? /QUOTE]
    Hi Simona. Thanks for your reply and further questions.

    The letter came as part of my daughters Friday emails from her primary school, which also has a school nursery attached for children age 3 and 4. They are offering flexible sessions, and state that 'in addition to the free 15 hours of government funded sessions, parents will have the option to pay for additional sessions. For example, if you require three full days of Nursery education because of work commitments, you will be able to pay for one additional session'

    I suggested that it was a 'feeler' email because no costs were stated and no application forms were supplied, or any dates that applications needed to be in by.
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    [QUOTE=k1rstie;1420255]
    Quote Originally Posted by Simona View Post
    K1rstie...I wonder if you can clarify a few points who is the 'feeler' email from? what age is the child? are they referring to 30 hours of childcare?...if they are is your LA volunteering the trials or are they the implementers for SEND etc? if a child attends 9-3 is that 'full time' at school'? what do you mean by saying they have not said what the cost is? /QUOTE]
    Hi Simona. Thanks for your reply and further questions.

    The letter came as part of my daughters Friday emails from her primary school, which also has a school nursery attached for children age 3 and 4. They are offering flexible sessions, and state that 'in addition to the free 15 hours of government funded sessions, parents will have the option to pay for additional sessions. For example, if you require three full days of Nursery education because of work commitments, you will be able to pay for one additional session'

    I suggested that it was a 'feeler' email because no costs were stated and no application forms were supplied, or any dates that applications needed to be in by.
    To me it looks like this nursery is just catching up with what most other nurseries already offer- flexible sessions or days as the parents choose, 15-hours of which can be FE and the rest paid for. It is still 'nursery'- not Reception Year at school, so the child's attendance there does not change the fact that they are a pre-school EYFS child at normal 1:3 ratio for any care they have at a CMer.

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    [QUOTE=k1rstie;1420255]
    Quote Originally Posted by Simona View Post
    K1rstie...I wonder if you can clarify a few points who is the 'feeler' email from? what age is the child? are they referring to 30 hours of childcare?...if they are is your LA volunteering the trials or are they the implementers for SEND etc? if a child attends 9-3 is that 'full time' at school'? what do you mean by saying they have not said what the cost is? /QUOTE]
    Hi Simona. Thanks for your reply and further questions.

    The letter came as part of my daughters Friday emails from her primary school, which also has a school nursery attached for children age 3 and 4. They are offering flexible sessions, and state that 'in addition to the free 15 hours of government funded sessions, parents will have the option to pay for additional sessions. For example, if you require three full days of Nursery education because of work commitments, you will be able to pay for one additional session'

    I suggested that it was a 'feeler' email because no costs were stated and no application forms were supplied, or any dates that applications needed to be in by.
    Thanks K1rstie...is that the Head master signature at the bottom of the letter?
    Is the school called 'Our school loge'?

    Are you clear what the school is trying to do or as they say they want to change the 'way the nursery is run'?...I can't see how they can do that...maybe you should find out, you could suggest parents get to ask questions on how this new arrangement would work and what the cost would be.
    There is a particular sentence that is a little unclear where it mentions parents can 'organise possible childcare needs'...are you clear what they mean?

    Moggy...I think the letter is very clear what the school is trying to do...or at least it is to me.
    If I had received it I would certainly go and get the contents clarified which I hope K1rstie will do.

    Let us know how you get on K1rstie....ask you will provide the childcare or additional hours as they mention...

 

 

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