Soiled pull-ups being sent home!!

**sonyach** · 04-10-2012, 07:27 PM

I was looking in lo's bag for pants. He is being potty trained at mo, at mine he wears pants but at pre-school he wears pull-ups I had just picked him up from pre-school so was putting him in pants and in his bag contained in a nappy sack was a pull-up filled with poo

I spoke to dad when he came to pick up and he said they always do it

What is that all about surely this is not right!! I have worked in many childcare settings and we had to dispose of nappies hygienically and certainly would not send them home. Does anyone else find this disturbing?

Pipsqueak · 04-10-2012, 07:32 PM

I find that absolutely revolting - what if it split, what if a child got into the bag, what if the bag was squashed. Was it double bagged at the very least?

**margimum** · 04-10-2012, 07:34 PM

OMG!!
That is so wrong for so many reasons

**Mouse** · 04-10-2012, 07:35 PM

I wonder if the pre-school has nowhere to dispose of nappies, or if they would have to pay to have them taken away?

**mum24** · 04-10-2012, 07:36 PM

I would check with the pre school their reasons for this.
They may believe they have to have to dispose of nappies in a special bin, can't think of the correct name at the moment.
There have been rumours here for some time that the council will soon not take nappies from childminders just put into ordinary household waste, but they we would have to have the 'yellow' bins, and pay for a special collection. I had decided myself that if that was the case I would just have to send soiled nappies home. So far this has not happened, but maybe the pre school think they have to.
Surely though they should have some sort of separate bag, not just stuff the nappy sack into his rucksack. Yuk

**lozzy23** · 04-10-2012, 07:41 PM

The pre-school my LO's go to are not allowed to put them in the school bin - they are on a school site. They give a slip of paper at the end of session to let you know there is a bag to collect with a pooey nappy in. They hang them outside on the fence and you go and collect your special package at the end. I noticed today there were about 5 named bags on the fence, you can see there are a lot of new littlies started.

**JCrakers** · 04-10-2012, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by lozzy23

The pre-school my LO's go to are not allowed to put them in the school bin - they are on a school site. They give a slip of paper at the end of session to let you know there is a bag to collect with a pooey nappy in. They hang them outside on the fence and you go and collect your special package at the end. I noticed today there were about 5 named bags on the fence, you can see there are a lot of new littlies started.

that's so funny. That's tickled me

**Mouse** · 04-10-2012, 07:47 PM

Here's an old thread where it was discussed

http://www.childmindinghelp.co.uk/fo...g+nappies+home

BucksCM · 04-10-2012, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by lozzy23

The pre-school my LO's go to are not allowed to put them in the school bin - they are on a school site. They give a slip of paper at the end of session to let you know there is a bag to collect with a pooey nappy in. They hang them outside on the fence and you go and collect your special package at the end. I noticed today there were about 5 named bags on the fence, you can see there are a lot of new littlies started.

This made me giggle

I can just imagine my parents having to collect named nappy bags at the end of the day!!

**sillysausage** · 04-10-2012, 08:04 PM

It could be to do with waste removal. Our preschool also asks parents to place sealed dirty/wet nappies in their own dustbins because it would cost preschool a fortune each year for the council to remove 'trade' or 'biological' waste.
If I remember correctly a few years ago on this forum there were several cases of childminders being asked by councils to register for trade waste collection (at a large cost) due to nappies.

**PixiePetal** · 04-10-2012, 09:05 PM

I have to say it's tempting to send them home when dustbin is emptied here on a Wed and my last mindee of the week is a Thurs! the thought of that last days poop hanging about for a week - yuck!

If it has to go home with the child, double bagged and in a separate carrier at least - not in a backpack

That's what I do with washables parent provides

**winstonian** · 04-10-2012, 09:10 PM

just YUCK!

**lozzy23** · 04-10-2012, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by PixiePetal

I have to say it's tempting to send them home when dustbin is emptied here on a Wed and my last mindee of the week is a Thurs! the thought of that last days poop hanging about for a week - yuck!

Pixiepetal I think you are lucky - our bins are emptied every 2 weeks and my 11mth old mindee normally has 3 poos a day (4 if he is feeling generous!) - 4 days a week and then there is the other two nappy wearers. phewwwwieee my bin honks.

**sonyach** · 04-10-2012, 09:28 PM

No not double bagged at all and the smell

and no warnings!! It all just seems wrong to me surely when running a childcare setting they know that there will be soiled nappy to be disposed of. God they have special council bins for dog mess surely they can accommodate children's waste!!

**PixiePetal** · 04-10-2012, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by lozzy23

Pixiepetal I think you are lucky - our bins are emptied every 2 weeks and my 11mth old mindee normally has 3 poos a day (4 if he is feeling generous!) - 4 days a week and then there is the other two nappy wearers. phewwwwieee my bin honks.

Yuck! glad half my mindees are in washables - half the poop in my bin!

**margimum** · 04-10-2012, 09:56 PM

Does this not prove the point that children are going into formal education too early?
Surely a preschool is not suitable for children who are wearing pull ups and are not fully trained?
Obviously there are odd accidents, but this seems a bit much!

**margimum** · 04-10-2012, 10:00 PM

Can you still get those nappy liners we used to use for terries?
They could be used inside disposables and the soiled liner flushed away, before bagging and binning the nappy
That's a really good idea Margi!! I should use it myself!!

**bunyip** · 05-10-2012, 08:56 AM

I'm frankly appaulled by the idea that any EY setting should conduct this disgusting and unhygienic practice just to save money.

I don't care whether it's a preschool, nursery or CM - it's not on.

**sillysausage** · 05-10-2012, 09:55 AM

I can't really see a problem. The nappies are bagged and are not left for an extended period of time. Preschool sessions are 3 hours max and I'm sure most children don't soil their nappies as soon as they are dropped off. I myself put bagged nappies in my porch until I can take them to the dustbin. This can sometimes be at the end of the day. Not ideal but better than leaving them in the house.
Most preschools are community based and are as such not for profit. This means that any extra charges have to be directly passed on to the parents in the form of increased fees. Preschools have to get a financial balance between what they need operate and what they can charge in their locality. Extra costs in terms of trade waste collection can lead to having to pay business rates and all sorts of other extras. Until a few years ago it was common practice for children to have to be out of nappies before attending preschool. Then it became an equal opportunity issue that it wasn't fair or right to deny a place based on a child's toileting stage. At that point preschool started at 2.5 yrs and most children were out of nappies. Now children can go to preschool from age 2 and children are in general later at being potty trained.
Several local toddler groups run out of church halls also have notices asking parents to take used nappies home, rather than leave them in the church's bins. Much the same as the preschool.

**rickysmiths** · 05-10-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by margimum

Does this not prove the point that children are going into formal education too early?
Surely a preschool is not suitable for children who are wearing pull ups and are not fully trained?
Obviously there are odd accidents, but this seems a bit much!

Oh how I agree with you on this one. When my two went to Playgroup they had to be 2yrs 9mths as a min and could not attend until they were potty trained unless there was a medical reason for not being trained. The trouble is they take them at 2yrs now and a lot of children seem to be being trained a lot later.

It is a yellow bin that we would have and we are all permitted to ask for one but they are expensive to be collected. However they do not have to be collected until they are full. I do not intend to have a yellow bin and if the day arrives that we have to have one I will be double bagging and sending all nappies home for disposal.