Today in Parliament

[sarah707]

I am very cross with Ofsted and not sure I can comment coherently yet.

How dare they when it was their document which said - childminders can't get better than satisfactory at their first inspection...

And it's their inspectors that have said 'I don't give childminders outstanding'.

I feel they have been setting us up for a fall for a long time

[SYLVIA]

How do they know that children from childminders are less school ready. Do they assess them then check to see if they have been with a childminder? Unless they can show how they get this information I think it very unfair to make that statement!

[Kiddleywinks]

How do they know that children from childminders are less school ready.

I think that's what the committee lady was trying to get at when ofsted sue confirmed that she eventually admitted they didn't actually have specific info to back up that statement.

[wendywu]

If children are not school ready its nothing to do with childminders its because at 2 3 4 it is not in their gentic makeup to be school ready. Any goverment that states young children are better off in nurseries than a family home environment is signing the death warrant of our future society.

[SammySplodger]

Have had nose against grindstone all day with unhappy screamy child and missed all of this...

Depressing reading - Gregory & Wilshaw have stitched us up... I suspected something like this would happen last Autumn.

Right now I have absolutely no respect for Ofsted... clearly they have no respect for CMs either. :-((

Where will it all end?

[k1rstie]

Floella Benjamin is a lib dem peer. She was all for getting children to help shape the NHS ( it said when I googled her!)


Maybe we should all write to her.

[Chatterbox Childcare]

Now I am glad that I pay my NCMA membership and proud to be a member. This support and challenge is what NCMA do for childminders.

[wendywu]

If children are not school ready its nothing to do with childminders its because at 2 3 4 it is not in their gentic makeup to be school ready. Any goverment that states young children are better off in nurseries than a family home environment is signing the death warrant of our future society.

We send our children into school far younger than the rest of Europe. What is it with this country that they don't want children to be at home with mum/CM . It does not work, it undermines family values. You might as well give birth and then send them straight to boarding school.

[littlemiss60561]

Hi is it poss to watch this back now? And if poss via tablet or iPhone as computer gone to computer hospital to be fixed again!!

Would really like to see what was said.

hi
yes it is, ive just watched it. the link is further up the page.
H x

[lubanana]

I was fuming, such a generalised comment about 'childminders' in general, watched Liz shaking her head in disbelief at Ofsteds nasty comments about childminders in general! I also want to know how she (ofsted) can link the development and care for under 2 year olds - when asked specifically - about attachment - with pre-schools, surely there are not any under 2's in pre-school anyway?? Or is Dorset different??
Un-****** believable,
I am more worried now than before,

[littlemiss60561]

Im fuming!
How dare she lay the blame at us? no proof, other than their ofsted grading stats, which as we all know , who you get on the day could make a difference (my second inspector went against what the first inspector told me to do....wonder what the 3rd one will say....) and the fact that they want this bad enough to manipulate outcomes? there are several schools around here that have been graded un satisfactory (to the up roar of parents and teachers declaring evidence not looked at properly) and next day declared acadamies. no coinsidence there is there.

incidently, my mindie who ive had since a baby has been writing her name and holding her pencil beautifully for atleast 5 months. shes ready for school now. her nursery ( 6 months in) asked mum can she hold a pencil correctly? ive not checked yet. its a lovely nursery and staff are great, but..

Liz, how you didnt slap the woman i dont know. well done to you. and as for "attachment" - Ms Sue- go look in a dictionary. Ive had training in attachment and separation anxiety. Clearly your not as professionally trained as i (we) are to make such ridiculous statements.

grrrrrrrrr and now for some restful sleep as my lil ones arrive in a 6 hours.

H x

[merry]

I agree with wendywu, these children are too young to be starting school, and even those children who are in fulltime childcare still spend the majority of their time with their parents, who are their first and foremost educator, so why do we (and nurseries) get the blame for them not being 'school ready'. I've thought for some time now that this government and the previous one would prefer to do away with smaller pre-school/childminder settings and have all children in state ruled nurseries.

[wendywu]

I agree with wendywu, these children are too young to be starting school, and even those children who are in fulltime childcare still spend the majority of their time with their parents, who are their first and foremost educator, so why do we (and nurseries) get the blame for them not being 'school ready'. I've thought for some time now that this government and the previous one would prefer to do away with smaller pre-school/childminder settings and have all children in state ruled nurseries.

I agree about wanting the state ruled nurseries. I did training on wed for the free nursery places for under privileged 2 year olds. She said they would rather place these children with CM as they realised that this was the best place for them to be.

Most of my training supports this train of thought and this fact comes through time and time again.
By saying that CM are no good they are saying in fact that mum and dad and a family are no good. Because in practice there is no difference between us.
And that my good friends is why our newspaper portray such cruel nasty and vicious storys of mankind in our country day in and day out. Bring back family values, respect and morals. Keep children out of school until 5, make it harder for young women who decide to have many children by many different men, make it harder for people who dont want to go and work. Lets go back in time because forward just does not work.

[hectors house]

Primary and secondary schools now have nuture units for children who can't cope with a whole day in a school environment - I bet that most of the children who use the nuture units went to Nursery and were not given enough one to one time, cuddles and love - I'm sorry but a key worker can't possibly love these children like I do my mindees. I don't just welcome children and families into my home, I welcome them into our lives.

quote from feedback from a parent about e-mailed diary "Thankyou for so much information about the day it really makes a difference being able to know what you've all been uo to when coming home to an empty house after college. Thankyou so much for all you do for X, the steps you take to help with her learning go above and beyond what i ever hoped for her from a childminder. You truly are an amazingly influential and important person to our lives. Have a good week, see you Friday. Thankyou"

[caz3007]

Primary and secondary schools now have nuture units for children who can't cope with a whole day in a school environment - I bet that most of the children who use the nuture units went to Nursery and were not given enough one to one time, cuddles and love - I'm sorry but a key worker can't possibly love these children like I do my mindees. I don't just welcome children and families into my home, I welcome them into our lives.

quote from feedback from a parent about e-mailed diary "Thankyou for so much information about the day it really makes a difference being able to know what you've all been uo to when coming home to an empty house after college. Thankyou so much for all you do for X, the steps you take to help with her learning go above and beyond what i ever hoped for her from a childminder. You truly are an amazingly influential and important person to our lives. Have a good week, see you Friday. Thankyou"

How lovely.

My full timer is very much part of our family and to us and her mum we are extended family as I know lots of others Cm's are to their long term regular mindies. Isnt that how its meant to be, we all love her to bits and we all miss her when she isnt here and I know she misses us too cos her mum tells me. She is fully nurtured like one of my own here along with all the learning that I did with all my own children and they have all turned out polite and respectful members of society.

So the government think that what I have offered all the children in my care over the years isnt good enough. I am a surrogate mum who works hard to keep the children in my care safe, secure and happy and I am best of friends with lots of ex parents and meet up regularly, so I must be doing something right

[manjay]

This is a perfect example of our society concentrating on what children may become rather than celebrating what they are now. The whole 'beings and becomings' debate is massive in academic studies and imho this constant fixation on a child's future is eroding childhood! School ready???? What a load of tosh.

I wish this was my current uni assignment as I would have no problem writing 4000 words

[FussyElmo]

Big signs - that is all. poor poor future generations of children

[AgentTink]

Here is the transcript from yesterdays committee meeting

House of Commons Public Bill Committee : Children and Families Bill (07 March 2013)

[Tunja]

They are playing again on the 12th March
Tunja

[Ripeberry]

I'd like to know if she's assuming every child who hasn't been to nursery is a childminder child, or is it that they've had no childcare at all, sounds weird to me.

Liz Truss better watch out then. She uses a Nanny. Does that make nannies as 'bad' as us?