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Originally Posted by
justgoodfriends
I don't think so (but could be wrong), the report is saying that the control over who is able to draw the funding will be taken from LA's - the will no longer be able to say 'you must have a level 3' and compete loads of LA devised self evaluation forms, be inspected by a LA pedagogue etc. duplicating what we already do for Ofsted. Each LA will still be allocated the funding I think.
"Local authorities currently retain 160 million a year of the funding meant to deliver early education for 3/4 years, some of which is dulpicating wrok ofsted is already doing"
As I said i have cynical head on but does anyone else think the la's have shot themselves in the foot and the government is after the money back
Also wonder how much the agencies will cost to set up
When someone tells you nothing is impossible, tell them to go slam a revolving door
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Last edited by justgoodfriends; 02-02-2013 at 10:12 PM.
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I personally don't think much will change, the lea will no longer be funded from government, so they will set up as an agency, they will continue to make childminders jump through alsorts of ridiculous hoops, attend unnecessary training, go through fccers assessments etc to be able to access funding, only thing will change will be we have to pay for the privilege.
This is a money saving exercise from the top, they don't want to pay the lea anymore that's a massive saving, they don't want to do individual inspections because it's expensive so by forcing us into agencies to be able to access training and funding that gets rid of that expense.
It's not about the children it's about cut backs but no one wants to use that term in relation to children as there would be uproar.
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Originally Posted by
blue bear
This is a money saving exercise from the top, they don't want to pay the lea anymore that's a massive saving, they don't want to do individual inspections because it's expensive so by forcing us into agencies to be able to access training and funding that gets rid of that expense.
I hadn't thought of that. If responsiblity for training is taken away from LA and given to agencies, if we don't join an agency we won't be able to access training
Cathy x.
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Just wondering....could a group of childminders not start their own agency?
Just food for thought really.
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Originally Posted by
mum24
Just wondering....could a group of childminders not start their own agency?
Just food for thought really.
Supposedly yes, but no one knows anything about them yet to be able to look into it properly.
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Originally Posted by
mum24
Just wondering....could a group of childminders not start their own agency?
Just food for thought really.
how about the CHILDMINDING FORUM agency ...i thought of it first ..pay me
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Originally Posted by
MrAnchovy
I understand the apprehensive feelings many people have had regarding changes to the number of children childminders are allowed to look after during a period of much uncertainty and rumour over the last nine months. The strength and depth of feeling is illustrated by the level of response to recent petitions launched before the publication of the report "More great childcare" by the Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (education and childcare), Liz Truss.
However many childminders already care for 2 children under one, or 4 children under 5, under the "continuity of care" arrangements of EYFS 2012 (previously under a "variation" from Ofsted). I think it is wrong to assume that the proposed changes to the regulatory regime, which may well be made by laws in the same way as the overall 1:6 limit rather than through the EYFS, will continue to allow optional variations - laws don't tend to work that way. It appears to me that a change in the law would potentially provide a clear and firm statement of limits that are no higher than those which already apply in practice to replace the current system which most people agree is confusing and open to abuse.
So if you believe that childminders should continue be able to look after twin babies, or take on two families with a full time toddler and a wrap-around pre-schooler, I think that you should consider the specifc proposals which are published in the report very carefully before reaching a conclusion on whether you are "for" or "against" them.
Agreed - also people need to remember that we are limited by space so regardless of how many children we can look after under the new proposed ratios we will only be allowed te same number of children depending on space!
Ie nurseries who have 50 places will continue to have 50 places - some people think that we will be able to cram as many children into homes & settings as possible.
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Originally Posted by
SammyL
Agreed - also people need to remember that we are limited by space so regardless of how many children we can look after under the new proposed ratios we will only be allowed te same number of children depending on space!
Ie nurseries who have 50 places will continue to have 50 places - some people think that we will be able to cram as many children into homes & settings as possible.
But the report has stated the floor space is a "trival issue" and it could be ignored.
When someone tells you nothing is impossible, tell them to go slam a revolving door
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Originally Posted by
SammyL
Ie nurseries who have 50 places will continue to have 50 places - some people think that we will be able to cram as many children into homes & settings as possible.
If I've remembered what it said in the report correctly, they are relaxing the rules on floorspace and requirements to have staff rooms/ rooms for private meetings with parents so nurseries WILL be able to take more children on. I guess it's the only way they could make it workable - nursery owners won't be prepared to build expensive extensions.
Now wondering if they have already done similar to CM's: Do the new style CM registrations (automatically registering the whole property with no mention of individual numbers allowed) mean that someone could have 6 mindees in a tiny home that might previously have been restricted to say, 4?
Last edited by lisbet; 03-02-2013 at 12:53 PM.
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