little bees
30-05-2008, 07:45 PM
Heard a very worrying story today. A childminder who has been minding for years and who comes very highly recommended has a waiting list as long as your arm has been put through :angry: by ofsted. ' a member of the public reported seeing her car in the car park of a local supermarket with young children in it left unattended. The car had a sign in the window advertising her business. 'the member of the public' took the details of the minder and reported her. However when this was supposed to off happened the minder was no where near the supermarket and was actually on an outing and had dated pictures to prove this. Ofsted have decided that because the member of public could describe the make model car reg and sign details she MUST HAVE DONE IT!!!!
It beggers believe. So if you advertise on your car please be aware there are some twisted nasty people out there who can use this against you.

Lou
30-05-2008, 07:50 PM
Thats a very worrying story and if i was the minder i wouldnt let it rest at that.

Blaze
30-05-2008, 07:52 PM
Neither would I!!:(

angeldelight
30-05-2008, 07:53 PM
That is terrible

I would not let it rest either if that happened to me

Just think this minder could have even been out on a day out with her own children

I just can not understand how some people are busy watching what other people do - it is crazy

The poor minder whats happened now ??

Angel xx

fishbones1
30-05-2008, 07:55 PM
Oh my god, what a scary thought. probably a rival childminder!!! (only joking) Childminders are lovely and supportive people!!!!:blush:

angeldelight
30-05-2008, 07:57 PM
It could have been a rival for all you know

Why would a member of the public want to do such a thing ?

Angel xx

miffy
30-05-2008, 08:02 PM
Why would a member of the public want to do such a thing ?

Angel xx

But what would you do if you saw young children left alone in a car?

It's a worrying story all the same and I feel very sorry for the childminder who now has to prove it wasn't her.

miffy xx

little bees
30-05-2008, 08:03 PM
This is a friend of a friend of a friend type of thing but i do know that the situation is still on going. They are talking about involving the police and if charges are brought it would be child neglect!! It's just madness. I just hope someone see sense soon, she has evidence to support where she was but ofsted don't seem interested. I have now taken all advertising off of my car!! It's just so scarey that this can happen

Blaze
30-05-2008, 08:07 PM
Oh my god, what a scary thought. probably a rival childminder!!! (only joking) Childminders are lovely and supportive people!!!!:blush:

Not in my area there not!:angry:...All sounds horribly familiar!!!:(

miffy
30-05-2008, 08:08 PM
This is a friend of a friend of a friend type of thing but i do know that the situation is still on going. They are talking about involving the police and if charges are brought it would be child neglect!! It's just madness. I just hope someone see sense soon, she has evidence to support where she was but ofsted don't seem interested. I have now taken all advertising off of my car!! It's just so scarey that this can happen

That's awful - presumably they don't believe she was elsewhere that day.

It's very frightening what can be brought against you

miffy xx

miffy
30-05-2008, 08:09 PM
Not in my area there not!:angry:

As you know only too well!

miffy xx

Blaze
30-05-2008, 08:10 PM
LOL...just edited my post!!!:D :laughing:

miffy
30-05-2008, 08:13 PM
LOL...just edited my post!!!:D :laughing:

Posted before you did that :laughing:

miffy xx

ajs
30-05-2008, 08:19 PM
i took all advertising off my car after my complaints too
i thought too many people in my town already stick their noses into everyone elses business they can keep well out of mine

mrsb
30-05-2008, 08:21 PM
The poor chidminder, i've been on the receiving end of spiteful lies and unfortunately once ofsted have dug their heels in it is hard to shift them. This is just another story that further instills my dislike of ofsted:angry:

Mollymop
30-05-2008, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the warning. It's only now that I am registered and have a mindee that I am paranoid about people. Like people who live near me, and my neighbours who don't know me very well, what if they decided to reprt me to ofsted just because they feel like it??

Lou
30-05-2008, 08:32 PM
This is such a difficult one, because i have been on the recieving end of a nasty complaint in the past and its a horrible situation, and if the minder as definatly somewhere else that day and can prove it then it is disgusting that Ofsted have let her down in this way.

Do we know that the minder was definatly not at fault here? sorry im tired and just checking?

Only if it was true i would be appalled, my hubby parked our car in Tescos one eve and ran in and a drink driver smashed into it whilst he was inside!!! Imagine if there had been children in there!!!!

little bees
30-05-2008, 08:47 PM
How awful. As far as i know she has photo's that prove where she was, i assume a digital camera as they date and time photo's. I would be very very surprised if she had done it, she is well known for following the rules to the letter. I just can't get over that the photo's don't clear her. Ofsted arrived un announced to inform her of the complaint and asked her for evidence their and then,

miffy
30-05-2008, 08:54 PM
How awful. As far as i know she has photo's that prove where she was, i assume a digital camera as they date and time photo's. I would be very very surprised if she had done it, she is well known for following the rules to the letter. I just can't get over that the photo's don't clear her. Ofsted arrived un announced to inform her of the complaint and asked her for evidence their and then,

I think a digital camera can be set to any date/time you wish before taking photos so that may be why the photos alone don't clear her iyswim

But I could understand that if she'd known she needed "an alilbi" but not when Ofsted just turned up unannounced.

What a nightmare

miffy xx

Banana
30-05-2008, 09:05 PM
That is so awful.

What is wrong with people?

Rubybubbles
30-05-2008, 09:11 PM
thats awful!

:(

Blaze
30-05-2008, 09:52 PM
In my experience it is most likely to have been a rival...but could just as easily be a disgrunted parent!:angry:

wendywu
30-05-2008, 10:33 PM
There is nought so dangerous as a jealous childminder. :panic:

Blaze
30-05-2008, 10:35 PM
There is ... a vengeful one!;) :D

wendywu
30-05-2008, 10:58 PM
Must be the surrey air then. You can always spot them, they are the ones with the binoculars and note pad OH and no children to mind :angry: I think they also have Ofsteds number tattooed on their shoulder.

Blaze
30-05-2008, 11:34 PM
LOL!:laughing:

miffy
31-05-2008, 07:19 AM
I don't think it's just Surrey :laughing:

Sure it's as much to do with how busy you are, what grading you got as anything else

miffy xx

Tatia
31-05-2008, 07:52 AM
People are so keen to mind every one else's business, it just drives me mental.

emler
31-05-2008, 08:08 AM
That is a really worrying story. I feel so sorry for the childminder who has the evidence and its being ignored!

Emler x

polobear1970
31-05-2008, 08:16 AM
Must be the surrey air then. You can always spot them, they are the ones with the binoculars and note pad OH and no children to mind :angry: I think they also have Ofsteds number tattooed on their shoulder.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

flora
31-05-2008, 08:16 AM
As with other stories people have posted I am sitting here thinking " but for the grace of god go I !!"

Hope it's resolved soon.

Let us know how it pans out.

polobear1970
31-05-2008, 08:25 AM
As a childminder you really do put yourself out there, and it is a worry when you hear things like this, I'm a fairly new childminder and while a thought long and hard before i became on, these are things that never entered my head

Lisa

angeldelight
31-05-2008, 09:40 AM
Miffy - you know ive only just realised this childminder COULD have left the children alone in the car - god knows what I thought I had read

Well sorry my view has changed a little now I know this

Why would anyone leave children alone in car - it would not be right

Childminder or not - someone would obviously report it

If you do nothing wrong in the first place then you have nothing to worry about do you ......... so really I do think it was the childminders own fault if she did do that

Obviously this minder might not have been there - but would she admit if she did it anyway ??

But if it is someone being nasty then its not nice either and hope she sorts it out

Angel xx

jmoff
31-05-2008, 10:18 AM
That is worrying!

But the childminder could have easily left te children in the car. She could have popped to the supermarket before taking them out on an outing...

x

Twinkles
31-05-2008, 10:27 AM
She could equally have been two feet away putting the trolly back/getting a ticket etc.

Spangles
31-05-2008, 11:47 AM
On the face of it this is very worrying but as it's a friend of a friend of a friend it makes me wonder if there's more to it if you see what I mean so I'm not going to worry about it.

chez1373
31-05-2008, 12:04 PM
I have left my children in my car aged 11,9,5 and 2 while ran into morrisons and got a chocy bar for my eldest as he is diabetic.....

i must stress they were NOT minded children and id never leave minded children in my car but i needed to get suger into my eldest ad it would have been more dangerouse to my eldest if i got everyone out

i feel for this childminder if she wasnt there and didnt do it,

little bees
31-05-2008, 02:42 PM
Have been asking a few more questions, and the person who has put the complaint in has said what time it was but the time is half way through the day out so to speak, and they even have the no of children wrong that she was minding that day. ( she has said she was no where near the supermarket that day and it's miles away from where they were on their day out. She has decided to ask them to obtain the cctv footage of the store to prove her case.

brillminder
31-05-2008, 04:35 PM
sad but i heard a similar tale and it was noit the child minder but a parent with identical car :( at a preschool

ChocolateChip
03-06-2008, 01:22 PM
It all smacks a bit of 'big brother' doesn't it- you never know who's watching.
The worst part is if she is innocent she will have a hell of a job to clear her name and surely that's not fair, especially the way that mud sticks iyswim- everyone should be innocent until proven guilty but that's not always the case!

:( :panic: :(

fionamal
03-06-2008, 03:33 PM
Im sorry to say but this sort of thing is happening all the time.

I had this happen to me in December last year. Care Commission came to my door stating that they had received a complaint about me leaving 4 pre-school kids in my car in xxxx street on xxxxx day.

The week of that complaint my own children had flu so had no minded children and on the said date and time I was in Sick Kids Hospital with my daughter who was being attended to for dehydration.

The complaint was then abolished as I had proof but it was let slip that it was another childminder who was going around making false complaints against other minders and has now been struck off.

TracyL
11-06-2008, 11:44 AM
I'm shocked that a childminder left a child ALONE in a car!

TracyL
11-06-2008, 11:49 AM
Sorry just re read it. If that is the case then that is a terrible thing and a complete injustice,but if she did do it then she only has herself to blame.

buildingblocks
13-06-2008, 07:21 AM
However when this was supposed to off happened the minder was no where near the supermarket and was actually on an outing and had dated pictures to prove this. Ofsted have decided that because the member of public could describe the make model car reg and sign details she MUST HAVE DONE IT!!!!.

Obviousl ysomeone has it in for her. SHe should not let that rest. If she has proof then she must fight it all the way

little bees
14-06-2008, 02:25 PM
GOOD NEWS, the complaint has NOT BEEN UPHELD.

miffy
14-06-2008, 05:42 PM
GOOD NEWS, the complaint has NOT BEEN UPHELD.

That's good news for your friend's friend.

I'm really pleased it has been sorted out

miffy xx

littletreasures
14-06-2008, 05:54 PM
Glad to heat it wasn't upheld.

littletreasures

Donkey
18-06-2008, 08:24 PM
I was planning on using my families cars as mobile adverts. I would really like to see someone try to pull that one on me, seeing as I don't drive and only have a provisional license!!!

it's disgusting the depths some people will sink to!!!

glad its all be sorted for her

lishylee
18-06-2008, 08:46 PM
what a scary story i advertise my buisness all over my car :( not sure what to do now maybe i should take them off poor childminder ofstead have really let her down if her story is true

leanne

brit_chick
18-06-2008, 09:27 PM
That's awful.There are some cruel people in this world :angry:
I am glad she has got it sorted.
I want to put a poster in my car but this has put me right off :mad:.
I have put poster's up today around near were i live & i really hope i dont get any funny phone calls or any trouble :(

Heaven Scent
18-06-2008, 10:46 PM
I'm not at all surprised what people would say to discredit people - I took on 2 new children after easter (sisters) and on the second day when I did my drop off at school the handbread on my car came off and it rolled into the car in front which just happened to be the Reception teachers car to cut a long story short (and normally I'm good at long stories but I'm not well so will try to be brief) I felt sure that I was the talk of the school and had it confirmed by other childminders that yes there was some talk about it but that wasn't surprising as they collect children from the reception class and year one (the class that my mindee is in). I'd got used to it and felt that by now the 9 day wonder would be over but I was wrong. Last Saturday I was giving a childminder from across the road from me a lift to EYFS training and she asked me if I'd crashed my car at the school - (she collects from a different school closer to our houses). I couldn't believe what she was telling me, she said that it was a woman at her daughters dance school who told her and another childminder who lives at the other side of town about it. I was pig sick it could really get out of hand and snowball into the fact that I'd hit a child or something. I wasn't even in the car at the time I'd un loaded 4 children with and the handbrake was on and when I returned to my car there was this woman standing rear the front of it talking to a man who was on the same side of the road as the school as I thought she was with a child who was on a bike near my car and couldn't believe it when she told me what had happened I approached the car from behind with 3 children in toe and hadn't realised that my car was so close to the one infront of it that it had actually connected with it. My main thought was that I was so grateful no body was passing between the two cars when it rolled I own a Citroen C8 and the teachers car is a Citroen picasso. Everything was sorted out quickly and eventually the teacher got the dent in the boot mended - now I see someone has graunched the door sill on the passanger side and done a lot more damage than my car did - its a bit like the damage my DH did to my car on an ornamental rock in a carpark in in local retail park. Mud sticks especially when the subject of the gossip is either faceless or the new kid on the block as it were. Sorry I'm falling asleep now so take care speak more soon when I feel better.

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