Hi!

I'm completing a variation form to allow me to care for two children under the age of one, one afternoon a week for six weeks. I thought I was doing ok completing the form, but I'm not sure what they mean by this.

"When making your request you should focus on what steps you have taken to meet the needs of children. "
I have included an outline of proposed routine, equipment and resources I have etc. Anything else I could add that might be beneficial?

Thanx in advance

Your experience and why you think you can cope with two babies under one?

If the variation is granted it will stay on your certificate for good not be time restricted.

Good luck

Miffy xx

I also put in mine how I would manage if both babies got upset or needed feeding etc at the same time

Your experience and why you think you can cope with two babies under one?

If the variation is granted it will stay on your certificate for good not be time restricted.

Good luck

Miffy xx

No it won't Miffy. It is sepcific to the child it is granted for and you have to reapply each time you need it. It says on the certificate that it is specfic to the children named in the Variation. They take into account all the children in your care at the time of the request and of course that changes.

I wish I could have had it put on my Cert it would have saved a lot of time over the last 5 years applying for numerous variations, the last one was for 2 weeks at the beginning of March.

No it won't Miffy. It is sepcific to the child it is granted for and you have to reapply each time you need it. It says on the certificate that it is specfic to the children named in the Variation. They take into account all the children in your care at the time of the request and of course that changes.

I wish I could have had it put on my Cert it would have saved a lot of time over the last 5 years applying for numerous variations, the last one was for 2 weeks at the beginning of March.

It doesn't state that it is specfic children on my certificate, I have a variation for 2 children under the age of one.

Carol xx

It doesn't state that it is specfic children on my certificate, I have a variation for 2 children under the age of one.

Carol xx

It says two under one on mine, it doesn't name the children but it does say for the children named in the variation dated...

I have had countless variations for this and have asked several times for a blanket cover and though I haven't been refused a variation they say they don't give blanket cover. I would check with Ofsted to make sure you are covered.

It says two under one on mine, it doesn't name the children but it does say for the children named in the variation dated...

I have had countless variations for this and have asked several times for a blanket cover and though I haven't been refused a variation they say they don't give blanket cover. I would check with Ofsted to make sure you are covered.

I just checked mine and it does not mention anything about variation or am I not looking in the right place ??????

It says two under one on mine, it doesn't name the children but it does say for the children named in the variation dated...

I have had countless variations for this and have asked several times for a blanket cover and though I haven't been refused a variation they say they don't give blanket cover. I would check with Ofsted to make sure you are covered.

I've only just got this variation so I know I am definately covered :thumbsup:

It doesn't mention anything about the children named in the variation. Perhaps it's a new thing.

Carol xx

No it won't Miffy. It is sepcific to the child it is granted for and you have to reapply each time you need it. It says on the certificate that it is specfic to the children named in the Variation. They take into account all the children in your care at the time of the request and of course that changes.

I wish I could have had it put on my Cert it would have saved a lot of time over the last 5 years applying for numerous variations, the last one was for 2 weeks at the beginning of March.

Yes it will Ricky - look at page 5 on this link

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/Ofsted-home/Forms-and-guidance/Browse-all-by/Other/General/Factsheet-childcare-The-numbers-and-ages-of-children-that-childminders-may-care-for

Miffy xx

Phew thanks for that Miffy thought I had dreamt it , I have looked and looked at my certificate.

I have two under one blanket cover on my cert too, i was told by ofsted that it will stay on there until I stop minding or ask for it to be taken off. x

I have two under one blanket cover on my cert too, i was told by ofsted that it will stay on there until I stop minding or ask for it to be taken off. x

my variation for 4 under 5's (before ass was reg) and it is for the child named on the variation form :thumbsup:
so i'm with rickysmiths on this one :D

this is what mine said before my assistant was registered and my numbers were increased

•may exceed this ratio to allow 4 children in the early years age group for the children named on the variation request of 29 December 2010 (Early Years Register, compulsory part of the Childcare Register)
•may only care for such children on Monday, Wednesday and Thursday from 9am to 5pm. This exception applies until one of those named children is no longer in the early years age group or is no longer cared for by the childminder (Early Years Register, compulsory part of the Childcare Register)

my variation for 4 under 5's (before ass was reg) and it is for the child named on the variation form :thumbsup:
so i'm with rickysmiths on this one :D

If it's a variation for 4 under 5's then yes, your certificate would say for the child named on the variation but it is different when the variation is for two under one. There are examples in the Ofsted fact sheet I put the link in for.

Miffy xx

This is taken from a friend's registration certificate


Conditions of registration
Conditions are restrictions that Ofsted places on a registration. Providers must meet these conditions at all times they provide registered care, as well as other requirements for registration. It is an offence not to meet conditions unless the provider has a reasonable excuse. If there are no conditions displayed then Ofsted has not restricted the registration.

The registered person:

may care for no more than 6 children under 8 years; of these, not more than 3 may be in the early years age group, and of these, not more than 2 may be under 1 year at any one time (Early Years Register, compulsory part of the Childcare Register)
must not provide overnight care (Early Years Register, compulsory part of the Childcare Register, voluntary part of the Childcare Register)

As you can see it's for 2 under 1 and is not time restricted.

Miffy xx

This is taken from a friend's registration certificate


Conditions of registration
Conditions are restrictions that Ofsted places on a registration. Providers must meet these conditions at all times they provide registered care, as well as other requirements for registration. It is an offence not to meet conditions unless the provider has a reasonable excuse. If there are no conditions displayed then Ofsted has not restricted the registration.

The registered person:

may care for no more than 6 children under 8 years; of these, not more than 3 may be in the early years age group, and of these, not more than 2 may be under 1 year at any one time (Early Years Register, compulsory part of the Childcare Register)
must not provide overnight care (Early Years Register, compulsory part of the Childcare Register, voluntary part of the Childcare Register)

As you can see it's for 2 under 1 and is not time restricted.

Miffy xx

That's what mine says too, except it's 5 children as Mitchell is still under 8 :thumbsup:

Carol xx

Thank you all for the replys! I have e-mailed the form this morning.
Wish me luck!

Good luck x

This is taken from a friend's registration certificate


Conditions of registration
Conditions are restrictions that Ofsted places on a registration. Providers must meet these conditions at all times they provide registered care, as well as other requirements for registration. It is an offence not to meet conditions unless the provider has a reasonable excuse. If there are no conditions displayed then Ofsted has not restricted the registration.

The registered person:

may care for no more than 6 children under 8 years; of these, not more than 3 may be in the early years age group, and of these, not more than 2 may be under 1 year at any one time (Early Years Register, compulsory part of the Childcare Register)
must not provide overnight care (Early Years Register, compulsory part of the Childcare Register, voluntary part of the Childcare Register)

As you can see it's for 2 under 1 and is not time restricted.

Miffy xx

this is what mine says too and I double checked it with Ofsted who said it isnt restricted and will stay on my certificate.

Thank you all for the replys! I have e-mailed the form this morning.
Wish me luck!

Good luck!

Miffy xx

If it's a variation for 4 under 5's then yes, your certificate would say for the child named on the variation but it is different when the variation is for two under one. There are examples in the Ofsted fact sheet I put the link in for.

Miffy xx

what difference would it make? i was told i was not allowed 2 under 1's unless it was for twins (as i needed an overlap of just 2 weeks) ofsted said NO, so had to delay mindee starting.

not that it matters now as i have my assistant :D

Yes it will Ricky - look at page 5 on this link

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/Ofsted-home/Forms-and-guidance/Browse-all-by/Other/General/Factsheet-childcare-The-numbers-and-ages-of-children-that-childminders-may-care-for

Miffy xx

:blush: Just re read my Cert and I have the same as you. The Cert is dated 31/1/11 so it must be a new thing! So many other bits to do with having 4 under 5s and working with an assistant I missed that bit! I stand corrected. Thanks for the link to the document.

what difference would it make? i was told i was not allowed 2 under 1's unless it was for twins (as i needed an overlap of just 2 weeks) ofsted said NO, so had to delay mindee starting.

not that it matters now as i have my assistant :D


It tells you in the Ofsted Documents how they assess the childminder before the grant a variation if that helps.