karenandsmile
11-05-2011, 09:37 AM
ok Mrs O is not happy with my dog bowls they are in the utility where the toilet is for the children tucked round the corner out of the way she wasnt impressed so where am i to put them where the dog can get to the water but the children cant i have looked for a tag system so when dog gets near a lid will open but can find anything else suitable the bottom line is she dosnt want the dog bowls where the kids are so that means i would have to shut my dog up in a room anyone else got an idea ????
Pipsqueak
11-05-2011, 09:42 AM
How about telling Mrs O to give her head a shake.
My inspector was not bothered in the slightest about the water bowl being down and if she was .. well is she going to pay for the separate area for the dogs? I teach children we do not touch the dog bowls - they are for the dogs. Its fully risk assessed and children are within sight and sound at all times. i have no children here when the dogs are fed.
miss mopple
11-05-2011, 09:55 AM
My dog bowls are in the kitchen behind a stairgate.Only water is down suring the day- she gets fed before and after work.She also has a water bowl in her crate in the hall and in her pen in the garden. Kids are supervised always anyway so its not a problem.Works for me :thumbsup:
caz3007
11-05-2011, 09:57 AM
My dogs water is down behind a gate too in my kitchen, so the children dont go in there unsupervised, so its never been a problem. Like others have posted she is fed in the evening after we have our tea, so long after mindies have gone.
Was Mrs O concerned that the children may use the toilet unsupervised and would then touch the bowls and you wouldnt know. If thats the case, is there somewhere more obvious you could put them.
TheBTeam
11-05-2011, 12:01 PM
Rediculous! I have my dog bowls down inside each of the dogs crates, but they are literally just inside the door and the doors are open all day (except of course if we have to shut dogs in), Mrs O did not even mention them, we also have dog toys in the corner of the living room (in fact under the dining table) and she said absolutely nothing!
She did ask to see risk assessments, one of which i had is for the dogs in terms of teaching dogs that they could only play with their toys, but the children could play with the dogs toys (not encouraged but just in case they do touch one the dogs need to be fine with it).
I also have that children are fully supervised around the crate area and that water bowls are inside the crates and children taught that this area is not to be used by them.
I covered hygiene etc and i guess she was happy with what she read and saw because she made no mention of it at all.
I know that some inspectors are funny about water bowls being in the kitchen etc, mine made no mention of the fact that i have no kitchen stair gate (not possible with bifold door to fit one), and my dogs go into the kitchen, not at meal preparation time, but they have free roam and the children are taught kitchen is no go, unless they have been given permission or they need to put something in the bin!
hollyberry
11-05-2011, 01:20 PM
Not me, but someone I know who is a childminder in my area was moaned at about her dog's water bowls being out. She said to Mrs O that maybe she should speak to the RSPCA if Mrs O was suggesting that an animal shouldn't have free access to water (think the inspector must have especially got under her skin that day!!!!).
I hope mine will be ok - all my minding will take place in the living room which is safety gated and prevents unsupervised access to the hallway, stairs and the kitchen, which is where the bowls are. No child will be in the kitchen and they won't be going to the loo without supervision either.
It is a bit daft - if a child did touch the dog's bowl then you'd simply give their hands a good wash surely!
mummyof3
11-05-2011, 01:46 PM
It annoys me the way Ofsted say we should always have fresh drinking water available for the children to access throughout the day yet our poor pets aren't allowed! :angry:
My dogs bowls are in the kitchen and I have a stair gate to stop the children going in the kitchen anyway (had that before I got the dog).
missnaughty
11-05-2011, 01:54 PM
Just wondering if anyone can help regarding risk assessing my dog. I am so unsure on what they are wanting can anyone advice me plz.x
karenandsmile
11-05-2011, 02:03 PM
SMART FEEDER - AUTO SENSOR DOG FEEDING BOWL (SMTFEED)
sold by gjw titmus on the net at 20.42 pence free postage
opens up when a dog is within 30cms and close when the dog gos away
Daftbat
11-05-2011, 03:57 PM
Just wondering if anyone can help regarding risk assessing my dog. I am so unsure on what they are wanting can anyone advice me plz.x
If you pm me your email address I can send you a copy of my risk assessment for my dog.
jane5
11-05-2011, 04:45 PM
SMART FEEDER - AUTO SENSOR DOG FEEDING BOWL (SMTFEED)
sold by gjw titmus on the net at 20.42 pence free postage
opens up when a dog is within 30cms and close when the dog gos away
Sorry if this sounds like a daft question but wouldn't the bowl open if a child is 30cm's from the bowl or does it have a sensor on its collar?:huh:
onceinabluemoon
11-05-2011, 04:59 PM
Sorry if this sounds like a daft question but wouldn't the bowl open if a child is 30cm's from the bowl or does it have a sensor on its collar?:huh:
I've just looked this up and it looks as if it will open when anybody/any animal gets close as its to keep the food fresh not to keep children out. Great idea to keep the food fresh though!
I keep my dogs bowl in the kitchen which is ok with ofsted but not with environmental health!!
littletreasures
11-05-2011, 05:32 PM
I feed the animals before the children come in the morning and in the evening. I don't leave food down all day for them, otherwise one particular cat would be the size of a house as he doesn't know when to stop!!
I keep the water bowl in the Utility Room tucked just inside so the children don't really see it.
All the cats and the two dogs use it. My Ofsted Inspector didn't say anything about dog bowls at all when she came.
rose hol
20-05-2011, 08:33 PM
I also feed my dog once all the children have left, but im sorry, i leave water for my dog, at all times, Where she can get it. Surely it depends on what age the childre are if a risk is going to be there! I teach my children from a young age not to go near the bowl, and also about hygine- washing hands after touching the dog. Luckly all my parents are dog lovers. Perhaps just hide the bowl when the dreded visit is due!!!:laughing:
lottieslittlelambs
22-05-2011, 10:12 PM
If you pm me your email address I can send you a copy of my risk assessment for my dog.
Daftbat? Could you send me a risk assessment for your doggy too? pretty please :)
TIA
Lottie
newtothis
24-05-2011, 01:36 PM
Hi Daftbat sorry to be a pain would I be able to have a look at your RA for your dog to please ?
I have 2 labradors but not sure where to start
Many thanks
katie78
31-05-2011, 09:22 PM
Hi can i be very cheeky and ask you to send me your ra for your dog too, im totaly stuck with what to do with ours :(
Thanks Catherynne xx
Dragonfly
01-06-2011, 06:51 AM
And me daftbat would be really grateful :blush:
Mollymop
01-06-2011, 11:58 AM
How about telling Mrs O to give her head a shake.
My inspector was not bothered in the slightest about the water bowl being down and if she was .. well is she going to pay for the separate area for the dogs? I teach children we do not touch the dog bowls - they are for the dogs. Its fully risk assessed and children are within sight and sound at all times. i have no children here when the dogs are fed.
I agree. I don't move mine out of the way, my dog needs to drink and be feed through the day. I teach the children not to touch the bowls and because I supervise the children at all times there has never been a problem over the 3 years I have been minding.
If it's an action have you thought about keeping the utility room closed and only open it when you are there for the dog to drink etc, my dog seems to tell me when he wants something just by coming up to me and staring at me til I say "what? What do you want?" then he runs off to tell me.
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