funfunfun
09-12-2010, 10:17 AM
My inspection was a couple of weeks ago.
The inspector was very nice i have to say and i was comfortable with her in the home . she offered me some fab advice too.
I was graded " satisfactory " i was told i was in breech of 3 requirements :eek:
how could this be possible i thought ................well it bacame clear that although i had the permission slips and paperwork that are required . The wording was not accurate enough. She was happy with everything else but said because of the above she would have to grade at this level . I knew if there would be anything .............It would be paperwork (typical)
I thought it was a little harsh but iv got over that now :) ........... I just thought id say be very very carefull and make sure you cover and word everything correctlly as in your statutory requirements book !!!!
Daftbat
09-12-2010, 10:25 AM
Well done on your inspection. The things that have been identified are easily sorted and you can rest assured that you are doing things properly.:thumbsup:
jane5
09-12-2010, 10:28 AM
well done :thumbsup:
You have a base line now and know where to make changes with paperwork ect... :)
clio0602
09-12-2010, 11:45 AM
Gosh I think my paperwork prob needs a go through over Christmas hols then as I still haven't heard from them so should be anytime now!
Well done!!!! think I'd be happy with satisfactory as I'm always finding things I've not done so I'm sure i've missed something if not more!
Can't cope with the waiting feel like ringing them and telling them to get a move on :(
sarah707
09-12-2010, 06:37 PM
It's lovely to see you back!!
Well done for getting through your inspection.
Would you be willing to share the wording so everyone knows what is expected of them?
xx
singlewiththree
09-12-2010, 09:09 PM
I'm glad it went well, I too would be interesting to know what requirements weren't worded correctly
Rubybubbles
09-12-2010, 09:35 PM
well done :)
miffy
09-12-2010, 10:21 PM
i was told i was in breech of 3 requirements :eek:
how could this be possible i thought ................well it bacame clear that although i had the permission slips and paperwork that are required . The wording was not accurate enough. She was happy with everything else but said because of the above she would have to grade at this level . I knew if there would be anything .............It would be paperwork (typical)
Sorry to hear that, shame the inspector couldn't have just pointed it out and left you to correct it.
What exactly didn't you word correctly?
Miffy xx
karensmart4
09-12-2010, 10:57 PM
Inspections are very hard aren't they :( They can leave you feeling as all your hard work has been in vein, but you have to remember that it's the reactions from the children and the parents that count.
You know that you do a good job, so well done :thumbsup:
funfunfun
10-12-2010, 09:11 AM
sorry (bit long ) as promised
my permssion slip reads the following
" I XXX give permssion for childs name to be left with assistamts name , Rebeccas assistant at funhouse for short periods ot time , this could be in a emergency senerio or whilst rebecca is on the school run .
signed dated by parent .
Even though i have permssions in place The issue was , i never stated assistant would be unsupervised and that in my paperwork i did not have my partner who is my assistants address and contact number on even though we live at the same address .:panic: :eek:
(page 40 of the statutory requirements )
My permssions read
" i give permssion to administer 1st aid and for me you give permission for emergency 1st aid to be administered "
I did not include the words seek medical advice.
(page 23 statutory book )
This one all my fault
never signed and dated my risk assesmnets or included a review date for walking to school , playgroup etc , so thats my own fault .
(again page 40)
I recieved my report today which has alot of good points , although isnt available online yet , with the 3 actions clear.
although in the report it says the following (just a snippit )
The childminder maintains a varied range of documentation , polocies and procedures including managing childrens behaviour and promoting inclusion . However some documentation is missing (review date , signature )and this results in a breech of some specific legal requirements , which may potentially comporomise childrens welfare . For example her risk assesment record does not include all the relevant information , she does NOT obtain parental consent to seek emergency medical advice ot treatmet
(treatment i do) or record the personal details of her assistant who may have unsupervised contact with the children
( i have permssion for and lives on the premisses.
However despite the lack of documentation , the childminder provides a safe learning envioroment for children to play , This is because she carries out daily safty checks and completes risk assesments .
Id be interested to know , what are your thoughts opinions on this .
Do you think some bits are a bit harsh , should i question the assistant permssions ............im not sure :idea:
Thankyou in advance
funfunfun
11-12-2010, 11:21 AM
added the wording last night
sarah707
11-12-2010, 04:26 PM
Yes it is a statutory requirement to keep the name and address details of everyone who lives and works on the premises somewhere on your paperwork.
Mine is just a list which is kept with my attendance registers plus all the details are with CRB checks in my portfolio... you could argue that you have a list with your family and assistant CRB checks??
Yes it is a statutory requirement to ask permission to seek emergency medical advice and treatment... we have discussed it at length on this thread -
http://childmindinghelp.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=61798&highlight=advice+treatment
Do you have an emergency medical advice and treatment form (separate to your permissions) with the correct wording on it? Something that lists emergency contacts and medical / religious wishes...
If you do then you could present that as evidence of meeting the requirements.
I think the problem is that Ofsted's standard language always sounds so harsh. :(
Nobody wants to be told they have 'breached specific requirements'...
But if your report reads well overall then you can hold your head high and say you are a new childminder who has taken advice on some wording, got it right now and that nothing you did was endangering children.
Hth :D
Rubybubbles
11-12-2010, 06:19 PM
A childminder here has been picked up on her paperwork nearly the same as you. It's a shame, but unless it's there for them to see, not alot more to be done:(
But still well done hunx
joannaconroy
13-12-2010, 02:15 PM
Yes it is a statutory requirement to keep the name and address details of everyone who lives and works on the premises somewhere on your paperwork.
Mine is just a list which is kept with my attendance registers plus all the details are with CRB checks in my portfolio... you could argue that you have a list with your family and assistant CRB checks??
Yes it is a statutory requirement to ask permission to seek emergency medical advice and treatment... we have discussed it at length on this thread -
http://childmindinghelp.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=61798&highlight=advice+treatment
Do you have an emergency medical advice and treatment form (separate to your permissions) with the correct wording on it? Something that lists emergency contacts and medical / religious wishes...
If you do then you could present that as evidence of meeting the requirements.
I think the problem is that Ofsted's standard language always sounds so harsh. :(
Nobody wants to be told they have 'breached specific requirements'...
But if your report reads well overall then you can hold your head high and say you are a new childminder who has taken advice on some wording, got it right now and that nothing you did was endangering children.
Hth :D
Hi there,
I have just read about the emergency treatment and advice on the forum and my face looks a bit like that:eek:
Checked mine paperwork and not sure if thats right. Help please!!!
In my accident and Incident procedure I said:
[B]'Parents/guardians will be required to sign a consent form allowing me to seek any neccesary emergency medical advice and treatment for their child.
Than:
The permission says:
I authorise JC to administer first aid to my child named below as and when neccesary, or in the event of emergency to seek medical advice and treatment and to seek medical/hospital assistance in our absence as appropriate. I will provide him/her with up to date details of contact numbers.
I understand that you will not be able to authorise any treatment and that I as the child's next of kin will be contacted by the medics in the event of emergency to give permision, or in life threatening situation the medics will act in their professional capacity..
I would be nice if you tell me what you think about it?
One more thing: I dont quite get what that is:emergency medical advice and treatment form? sorry I am just getting confused!:o
Thanks
regards
sarah707
13-12-2010, 06:09 PM
Your wording looks ok to me but I am not an expert on Ofsted's latest thinking.
An emergency medical advice and treatment form might include emergency details for parents, emergency contacts, info about parents wishes if child is ill (religious, cultural etc), medical details about the child, signatures for parents etc.
The form would then be taken on outings as well as kept in the house in case of emergency.
The only thing I was advised by a legal secretary was to put 'will make every attempt to contact parents / emergency contacts' because there is no guarantee they will be available when called.
Hth :D
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