I ahve just been reading about people being reported - posted last week. I'm afraid to say that I know alot of childminders who have been reported for things by other childminders. Ona actually gave up minding for a few years becasuse of the stress it caisd her. Its really sad that people who could and should be there to support u want to stab u in the back - think it's jelousy. I always have my guard up walking to school and at school beacause u don't know who is watching and listening.

Sarah :)

it has to be jelousy. at the end of the day what else could the reason be, you become a childminder to care for children because thats what you enjoy and if thats the job role that you choose then it already shows to people that u enjoy working with children and u would never but a child in danger.
People/childminders do get jelous when they see that a childminder is doing well as you are in competition in away as your in the same area as them.
I find when im out and a bout at the park or the school i asked ask questions about little things i.e how meny children are you allowed? how much you charge? even personal questions! and i will be honest i keep my self to my self i always have done and think thats the best way 2 be.

Sometimes it is not a stab in the back at all. It is a question of making sure that really bad or even dangerous practices are not allowed to continue.

For examlpe:

You see a childminder dropping off at you school and you notice she is not using car seats for all the children in her care and the ones she is using are not age apporpriate. You see this happening on a number of days.

Ok, so you approach her, have a quiet friendly word. (she never goes to drop ins, the childrens centre, undertakes ongoing training and she is young and newly registered. She won't have anything to do with her 'buddy') She doesn't like your approach and is hostile in her response. You then see her continue to behave as she has been doing before you had your 'chat'. What would you do next?

1. She is breaking the law.
2. She is breaking the conditions of her registration
3. She is clearly not safeguarding the children in her care, she is actually putting them in danger.

Some six months later you arrive at school for the afternoon pick a few minutes early, you have a child asleep in the car so you sit there for a few minutes before you unload and ALL walk into school.

As you are sitting there you notice the above childminder drive up and park. She gets out of the car, locks the doors and walks over the road with a small mindee, goes into a block of flats where small mindee lives and you are thinking, 'oh she's talking them home', a few minutes later she comes out and reutrns to her car.

She unlocks the car and proceeds to get a double buggy out of the back and then unloads two children out of the car into the buggy. One is her own the other a mindee.

What would you do next?

I agree with you sarahlou thats why I take a wide birth away from other childminders,and do not go to groups,though I do have 2 childminder friends and we go out together with the children.A lot of them around here always seem to be poking there nose into other peoples business.A few years ago I looked after twins when another childminder came up to me and said you are not allowed to look after 2 babies under 1 you are breaking the law.I said well actually I can I have a variation,she soon shut up.Another time another childminder actually got me interested in childminding and then asked me to go and be her assistant I said ok,then she said she had heard that my husband had had an affair and I actually beat up the girl he had an affair (with this rumour started by another childminder).In fact it was not me but my sister and she hit the girl who slept with her husband not beat her up.She said sorry and still asked me to reconsider I said I couldn't work with people that didn't trust me and I didn't want to be associated with her or her little group of clones.She is supposed to be my Gem and her group is very clicky that she runs.
A lot of them are jeolous,for the life of me I don't know why we are all supposed to be keeping together and helping each other.

Rules are there for a reason to ensure the safety and well being of the children and some childminders who break the rules are leaving themselves open to being reported. How would you feel if you saw something, didnt report it and then something awful happened how would you then feel?

It is not a case of being jealous of other cms, most I know work in partnership with each other, which benefits the children in their care.

We had an 'issue' a few years ago when one childminder reported another. Lots of people had spoken to this minder & suggested she shouldn't be doing what she was, but she saw nothing wrong in it.

I was astounded at the difference of opinion among other childminders. Most of us thought that it was right to report her, but some thought that all CMs should stick together and keep quiet about things like that.

Remember that if you are reported and it isn't upheld then the complaint does not go on your record.

At the end of the day, if you properly care for the children that you look after and adhere to all the rules and regulations then you have nothing to worry about.

I think that the people you are refering to actually had genuine cause for concern regarding the safety of children.

If a child is left alone in a car, this is an offence! Are you saying that you would just turn a blind eye and do nothing? Would you be able to live with yourself if anything had happened to a child that you could have protected - Baby p is all I need to say!

If a child is placed in any sort of danger ie left in a car alone or not in a car seat at all, then yes i would not think twice about reporting them.

But if i saw a minder one child over numbers in the playground, or someone else picking their mindees up, i would not even think about it.

I know for a fact that in an dire emergency if you phone Ofsted up they will give you permission to break all their rules. They are not heartless. If social services are involved they allow you to bend rules as well. So i just assume that certain circumstances have occurred and it is none of my business so i would not be so nosey to ask. :)

Sometimes it is not a stab in the back at all. It is a question of making sure that really bad or even dangerous practices are not allowed to continue.

For examlpe:

You see a childminder dropping off at you school and you notice she is not using car seats for all the children in her care and the ones she is using are not age apporpriate. You see this happening on a number of days.

Ok, so you approach her, have a quiet friendly word. (she never goes to drop ins, the childrens centre, undertakes ongoing training and she is young and newly registered. She won't have anything to do with her 'buddy') She doesn't like your approach and is hostile in her response. You then see her continue to behave as she has been doing before you had your 'chat'. What would you do next?

1. She is breaking the law.
2. She is breaking the conditions of her registration
3. She is clearly not safeguarding the children in her care, she is actually putting them in danger.

Some six months later you arrive at school for the afternoon pick a few minutes early, you have a child asleep in the car so you sit there for a few minutes before you unload and ALL walk into school.

As you are sitting there you notice the above childminder drive up and park. She gets out of the car, locks the doors and walks over the road with a small mindee, goes into a block of flats where small mindee lives and you are thinking, 'oh she's talking them home', a few minutes later she comes out and reutrns to her car.

She unlocks the car and proceeds to get a double buggy out of the back and then unloads two children out of the car into the buggy. One is her own the other a mindee.

What would you do next?

in this instance yes i would report her
unfortunalty i have been reported by another minder for things that never happened (i was actually out of the country when i was supposed to be overminding)
guess who was fully booked with a waiting list and guess who had no children on their books this is downright vindictive and is done from pure jealousy
in instances like mine then the minder who makes the report and its found to be totally untrue ofsted should be able to do something about it i had to show my travel tickets to show i wasnt even here when it was supposed to have happened :angry:

It is a tricky one..well not where childrens safety is concerned but where someones practice perhaps leaves something to be desired.

I haven't seen any jealous reporting in my area. Some reporting to those regarding safety have been done.

I go to as many groups as I can,everyone knows I'm a minder and this is great for future mindees as the parents see me in action.

I'm very open with parents and other minders,they ask what the child/adult ratio is,how many I have,what I charge. Ask away I have nothing to hide and usually get questions about spaces this way.

I think different situations here are being described, so its difficult to say whats right here. Yes there are malicous and jelous minders out there, who do it to cause trouble. But there are also minders who have no respect to the law and put children at risk unessesarily.

Its me again.!

After point three the childminder was repoted to Ofsted, not by me but by the cm that tried to help her and she didn't want to know, I don't go to this school. Ofsted contacted her, visited her and gave her a warning that she must abide by the law of the land and her registration.

We have now arrived at the second senario and she is about to be reported again.

This has nothing to do with tit for tat or being jealous of someone or anything as childish as that. Childminders with more experience tried to help her and when she was reported the first time it was done after considerible thought and a very heavy and sad heart, in the hopes that it would give her a sharp shock and bring her to her senses.

We are now sadly at the second senario. The cm that has seen her has laboured long and hard and believe you me it has not been an easy choice to report her again

What you have to do I think is have absolute regard for the safety and wellbeing of the children concerned and the cms own children. No one should
be treating children in the way they have above and least of all a cm who has been trained to know better. It is these people who potentially give us all a bad name.

I regard myself as a very good childminder, I absolutlely love my job (hate the paperwork!!!) and all my mindees, I have a very good relationship with all my current parents and I feel very previllidged to be in the position I am in at the moment.

Someone has mentioned feeling they have to watch their back all the time and in a sense perhaps we do, we may be conspicuoius because of the children we care for but I find that most often it is positive. People remark how happy or how much the children are enjoying themselves, how well behaved they are, aren't I brave to be out with the three or four I may have, more if I have the older ones in the holiday.

If someone approached me and said I had too many children I would explain the current situation, I have had many variations over the years to cover many combinations of children. If they then chose to report me to Ofsted then it would be quickly confirmed that I was only doing what I am allowed.
Nothing would go on my record.

I do feel sad sometimes at the negative feelins on here. I feel even more sad that there are those of you who feel unable to go to what sould be valuble cm groups where we can support each other because they feel these cms ' poke their noses in'. I find that really sad. If you feel that way you could always start your own group but have you ever though what they might think you are like because you don't mix and I bet you are ALL really nice people.

Well sorry this is soooo long I've had my rant now promise I won't say any more.:blush: :blush:

I've started to help out at a local childminder group even though i don't have any mindees yet and they are a very friendly bunch and made me feel right at home straight away. They led me straight to the vacancies board and got me put my details down and got me chatting.
I've also been allocated a "mentor" and i will be calling her up when i have to fill out my first contract.
I'm lucky that in my area there is a lot of help available and there are lots of baby groups. When my first daughter was born 6 yrs ago, there was hardly anything around here!
I would hope that if i did something wrong another CM would have a friendly chat with me and not go storming off to Ofsted.

No you are wrong I did go to these groups for quite a while and couldn't put up with the back stabbing about people they didn't know.My little group now with my 2 other childminders works fine for us.And I know I am a fabulous childminder and don't need to prove it to others apart from my mindees and parents and certainly not another childminder.:)

If you are referring to my thread on me reporting a childminder for leaving an infant in a car while she collected children from the other side of school, while her care was parked on the side of the road, then I can assure you here and now that there was no element of jealousy in my reporting her.

The way I intend to measure my success as a childminder is not how busy I am, or how much money I am raking in. But watching children thrive in my care, how happy and content they are in a warm, loving family home.

A mum recently visited my home, who drops off at the same school, and has witnessed children being left in her car MANY times. She also told me that last year a mum left the handbrake off her car when dropping her children off and the car went down the hill into a hedge - the car could easily have smashed into another car. There are any number of scenarios where leaving children in the car alone is the WRONG thing to do.

You could leave a child alone in a car everyday and nothing happens, but one day something happens and you live with that every day. You cannot eliminate risk entirely from a childs life, but courting it in this manner is a dangerous game and when its not your child, its shameful.

You say you constantly watch your back etc. I'm not interested in the day to day running and care of the children. I don't know the details, the character of the children, the wishes of the parents, the information on your registration certificate. But if you put a childs life in danger, particularly a child who cannot speak for themselves, then you should watch your back, because I will have no qualms in reporting you, and its got nothing to do with being jealous.

I really hope you see the difference between this and petty reporting for sport or retaliation.

If you are referring to my thread on me reporting a childminder for leaving an infant in a car while she collected children from the other side of school, while her care was parked on the side of the road, then I can assure you here and now that there was no element of jealousy in my reporting her.

The way I intend to measure my success as a childminder is not how busy I am, or how much money I am raking in. But watching children thrive in my care, how happy and content they are in a warm, loving family home.

A mum recently visited my home, who drops off at the same school, and has witnessed children being left in her car MANY times. She also told me that last year a mum left the handbrake off her car when dropping her children off and the car went down the hill into a hedge - the car could easily have smashed into another car. There are any number of scenarios where leaving children in the car alone is the WRONG thing to do.

You could leave a child alone in a car everyday and nothing happens, but one day something happens and you live with that every day. You cannot eliminate risk entirely from a childs life, but courting it in this manner is a dangerous game and when its not your child, its shameful.

You say you constantly watch your back etc. I'm not interested in the day to day running and care of the children. I don't know the details, the character of the children, the wishes of the parents, the information on your registration certificate. But if you put a childs life in danger, particularly a child who cannot speak for themselves, then you should watch your back, because I will have no qualms in reporting you, and its got nothing to do with being jealous.

I really hope you see the difference between this and petty reporting for sport or retaliation.

in these circumstances i agree with you and would have done the same thing however i think what is being said is there are some minders out there (hopefully minority and im not suggesting anyone on here is one of them)that would report another minder out of jealously as in my case i obviously had not done anything wrong as i was out of the country just a shame this minder didnt know that i was away on the day she had given ofsted for my supposibe breach (she did when DO made contact with her about complaint)

i do however measure my success as a minder as to how busy i am as this makes me feel the service i am providing is fantastic i also get great pleasure in watching and helping the children thrive and develop
nearly all of my families are from word of mouth my elderly neighbour (known as streets unofficial neighbourhood watch what she misses isnt worth noticing ) has also seen me with the mindees and has told her granddaughter to bring her child to me as well as a family friend, both children now attend this in itself speaks volumes about a minder
as i am full to bursting with my assistant and have a waiting list i feel this shows me and possible families how happy and safe the children feel being with me in my home and how highly the parents regard my care for their children
i had one new mum call with her baby today and she asked the 4 year old why she liked coming to me her answer because i love her (meaning me) :clapping:

I'm so pleased the local minders by me are friendly, we meet monthly at the childrens center and every half term at school (which I arrange .. the school one so its sort of a drop in chat play and talk with no officials listening in ) we share policies too if anyo of us feel the need to update for some reason, its a good team without actually having a team.

I think i sparked some of this on the assistants and school run thread.

When someone said that an assistant had collected an 8 year old from school and should it be reported or did Ofsted allow it.

It was me who said that i felt some minders were just waiting for others to slip up on the ever changing rules and that i sometimes felt we should be watching our backs.

This is a totally different situation from placing a child in danger and i would be the first person to tell someone to their face that this was wrong.

On the other hand our CM groups are really great, no problems there, as the other CMs know if we have a permission to go over numbers or how many assistants we have. So i feel that our CM groups are great support.:)

Yes i would report another childminder if I was to see evidence of mistreating children, safeguarding issues etc. If I see "bad practice" and it concerned me then I would talk to our CDO. I am a support minder and one of my "supports" really doesn't think any of this (waves hand meaning EYFS, Ofsted etc is applicable to her and can't understand WHY its applicable to her) - I have gone as far as I can with her and now passed it onto my CDO.


I work damned hard to be a professional and to deliver a quality professional service and I will not be tarred with the same brush as those who can't be bothered to do their jobs properly.
I have overheard parents in the playground saying "huh childminders -look at the way that one behaves - wouldn't leave my dog with her"...... one parent approached me in the playground and was saying about how another childminder does this that and the other - I gave her Ofsteds number.

I don't "watch my back" at teh end of the day I have nothing to fear from Ofsted.

I run drop in's and some of what I come across is truely awful and thank goodness there are no parents there. In the main there are the die-hard core group of "this is how we have always done it" and you have the other group who care - really care about their work and teh children. I am quite happy to walk into these cliques and shake it up a bit.:D

If you are referring to my thread on me reporting a childminder for leaving an infant in a car while she collected children from the other side of school, while her care was parked on the side of the road, then I can assure you here and now that there was no element of jealousy in my reporting her.

The way I intend to measure my success as a childminder is not how busy I am, or how much money I am raking in. But watching children thrive in my care, how happy and content they are in a warm, loving family home.

A mum recently visited my home, who drops off at the same school, and has witnessed children being left in her car MANY times. She also told me that last year a mum left the handbrake off her car when dropping her children off and the car went down the hill into a hedge - the car could easily have smashed into another car. There are any number of scenarios where leaving children in the car alone is the WRONG thing to do.

You could leave a child alone in a car everyday and nothing happens, but one day something happens and you live with that every day. You cannot eliminate risk entirely from a childs life, but courting it in this manner is a dangerous game and when its not your child, its shameful.

You say you constantly watch your back etc. I'm not interested in the day to day running and care of the children. I don't know the details, the character of the children, the wishes of the parents, the information on your registration certificate. But if you put a childs life in danger, particularly a child who cannot speak for themselves, then you should watch your back, because I will have no qualms in reporting you, and its got nothing to do with being jealous.

I really hope you see the difference between this and petty reporting for sport or retaliation.

No, this is a real situation that is ongoing in my area now, although it may be similar to your thread.

sorry i should have quoted original poster when replying. apologies... :blush:

I ahve just been reading about people being reported - posted last week.

Sadly this is the way of the world and as childminders we are open to all sorts of things like this. Too many good childminders (many on here) have had unfounded complaints made against them and all you can do is hope and pray it won't be you.

I'm afraid to say that I know alot of childminders who have been reported for things by other childminders. Ona actually gave up minding for a few years becasuse of the stress it caisd her. Its really sad that people who could and should be there to support u want to stab u in the back - think it's jelousy. I always have my guard up walking to school and at school beacause u don't know who is watching and listening.

It is sad you feel that you always have to be on your guard you shouldn't have to feel like this




At the end of the day all we can do as childminders is to do our best for the children and carry on doing an excellent job. If you are doing nothing wrong you should have nothing to worry about although sadly it seems that there are nasty childminders who report others through jealousy and there is nothing you can do to stop that.

I was once approached by a childminder at school who asked me how I went over my numbers in the school holidays and I replied I don't. She said you must do in the school holidays i siad no. I tried my hardest to help her as she struggled with the paperwork side of it but she was never going to get her head around it. I spoke to my development worker without mentioning names and she knew who I was talking about but nothing was ever done. She ended up being reported to the police for smacking a child and shouting at the child in the street. The sad thing is that if the Local EY had helped and supoorted her more that may not have ended liek that.

If on the other hand I saw someone leaving a child in a car I am lucky in the fact that an ex parent is a PCSO and I would get them to send the PCSO's around the school to have a word with the childminder/parent. ANything else I would have no qualms if I thought a child was in danger. Reporting to OFsted is one of those areas that seem a waste of time as they never seem to do anything more than have a word with the childminders (the cases I have heard of).

I would like to think that all of us on here are professionals and juggle the lets all be a nursery aspect of childminding with the home from home we all want to give.

We are a close knit group where i am. If some one needs cover for any reason there is always someone who will help. So it can work. But work is quite plenty in surry and anyone who wants to be full can.

We all cope with the EYFS, an odd few have not started yet but it is up to them. I would not want to have one of their inspections. I suppose they will just go into a panic nearer the time.

Hi, It is so sad that some childminders see others as a threat! There is a real clicky grp at our school and they used to chat to me on a daily basis! Since word has got round that i am too in the process of becoming a childminder they blank me!:angry: It is so pathetic i give them a wide birth now as i do think they could be funny! :mad: My friend had her child with one of them, but she pulled them out as she turned up early to collect her child to find the CM in the middle of having her nails done by a mobile beauty therapist!!:eek:
She couldnt believe it!!! Cheeky thing!!:censored:

Its me again.!

After point three the childminder was repoted to Ofsted, not by me but by the cm that tried to help her and she didn't want to know, I don't go to this school. Ofsted contacted her, visited her and gave her a warning that she must abide by the law of the land and her registration.

We have now arrived at the second senario and she is about to be reported again.

This has nothing to do with tit for tat or being jealous of someone or anything as childish as that. Childminders with more experience tried to help her and when she was reported the first time it was done after considerible thought and a very heavy and sad heart, in the hopes that it would give her a sharp shock and bring her to her senses.

We are now sadly at the second senario. The cm that has seen her has laboured long and hard and believe you me it has not been an easy choice to report her again

What you have to do I think is have absolute regard for the safety and wellbeing of the children concerned and the cms own children. No one should
be treating children in the way they have above and least of all a cm who has been trained to know better. It is these people who potentially give us all a bad name.

I regard myself as a very good childminder, I absolutlely love my job (hate the paperwork!!!) and all my mindees, I have a very good relationship with all my current parents and I feel very previllidged to be in the position I am in at the moment.

Someone has mentioned feeling they have to watch their back all the time and in a sense perhaps we do, we may be conspicuoius because of the children we care for but I find that most often it is positive. People remark how happy or how much the children are enjoying themselves, how well behaved they are, aren't I brave to be out with the three or four I may have, more if I have the older ones in the holiday.

If someone approached me and said I had too many children I would explain the current situation, I have had many variations over the years to cover many combinations of children. If they then chose to report me to Ofsted then it would be quickly confirmed that I was only doing what I am allowed.
Nothing would go on my record.

I do feel sad sometimes at the negative feelins on here. I feel even more sad that there are those of you who feel unable to go to what sould be valuble cm groups where we can support each other because they feel these cms ' poke their noses in'. I find that really sad. If you feel that way you could always start your own group but have you ever though what they might think you are like because you don't mix and I bet you are ALL really nice people.

Well sorry this is soooo long I've had my rant now promise I won't say any more.:blush: :blush:

Know how you feel Ricky,we also have a local cminder who has been reported many times and even had parents take their children away.A couple of the other minders have tried to help her because sometimes her comments and the way she speaks to the children are just not appropriate.

Some of the things she has said are jaw dropping and yet she is still minding.

Also agree with childminding/toddler groups,they are invaluable,but again we have some minders who just don't bother.

Always makes me think they have something to hide tucked away in their little houses.

I think sometimes people feel that they are open to getting stabbed in the back by other childminders... especially on here...you ask an innocent question, someone has a difference of opinion, things get blown out of proportion and next thing you know, everytime you go out you feel like all eyes are watching you, waiting for you to slip up and report you.

Maybe that's just me being paranoid, but thats the way I feel sometimes. I love my job and would never put a child at risk. My business is my first love (after my hubby and kids) and my livelihood. I would never do anything to jepordise it.

I would never be jealous of another childminder. I wish I knew those in my area as I would love to meet up and talk to someone who knows what I am talking about, share experiences and actually have an adult conversation with someone who isn't in my laptop!

As it is, no one talks to me on the school runs and as I am quite shy I keep myself to myself. I also do not go to support groups because of this reason, although if I knew people, I would definately go... I have never been issued a support childminder and I've never met my development worker. I feel we should all get along and offer encouragement and support....we're all in it together afterall. :)

At the end of the day we are all in the same job.We should back each other up 100%,not critisize each other.We all do our job to the best of our ability and not everyone does everything the same but we all do a fantastic job that is not an easy job,but very rewarding.so come on everyone lets stick together and do our very best to be friends:blush: :blush:

If you go along to your local childminding group your local CD officer should be there.

I think they are great and the 3 a month i go to are very well run. We all know each other and have done for quite a few years. I think you have to be outgoing to be a minder, well it has certainly helped me keep in business all these years.:)

You do not have to be outgoing to care for children.

I did not say you have to be outgoing to care for children, but it helps if you choose minding as a profession.

It makes it easier to walk into a toddler group on you own and strike up a conversation with a stranger. To network in the school playground by talking to other mums. To stand up and argue a point in a training session. To stand your ground with parents so they do not take advantage of you. To tell Ofsted that they have had enough time to consider your request to go over numbers and the parent has a deadline, so you need to know NOW. To push yourself forward and sell yourself when you have a space to fill.

If not childminding can be a very lonely place to be.:)

If you go along to your local childminding group your local CD officer should be there.

I think they are great and the 3 a month i go to are very well run. We all know each other and have done for quite a few years. I think you have to be outgoing to be a minder, well it has certainly helped me keep in business all these years.:)

Evening Wendy!

Not all c/m groups have the CDO there - I run ours!:) Mind you I think "my lot" think of me as something similar anyway lol. Perhaps some of the newbies have a buddy system in their area that they can hook up with their support.

As a support minder I know how tough it can be for some of the less outgoing minders to walk into a room full of strangers - I always offer to met them outside or make sure I make a beeline for them as soon as they walk into the room - then I introduce them to others in the room.
I must admit that I am not a particuarly outgoing person - but I fake it well! As my confidence has grown in my professional capacity I am more able to stand my ground about things. I have learnt a few tricks to make myself appear more confident - such as taking a breath before entering a room full of people who I don't know, make sure that I smile and say hi, try and strike up a conversation etc. makes you feel sick inside at first though.

At the end of the day we are all in the same job.We should back each other up 100%,not critisize each other.We all do our job to the best of our ability and not everyone does everything the same but we all do a fantastic job that is not an easy job,but very rewarding.so come on everyone lets stick together and do our very best to be friends:blush: :blush:

Yes heth you are right - we should all stick together. It would be nice but sadly its not always that way.
I will say something if someone else (another minder) is doing something that is downright unsafe or bad practice. Working alone we have to ensure that we cover our backs as well as caring for the children in a safe and appropriate way.
I certainly wouldn't want my children cared for by some of the minders and their practices. for example one minder i know is stuck in the dark ages as to discipline and the way she talks to children. Its not right or nice.
I will disagree - not EVERYONE does a fantastic job but i would say that many/the majority do an amazing job and they really do care.

I have worked hard to ensure that i deliver a professional, quality service, building up a solid reputation and I won't have it destroyed by those who couldn't give a monkeys.

and hey - don't be blushing, you are entitled to your opinion and its respected on here:D

Evening Pip

Our CDO is always at our meetings, perhaps she just likes the talented ,witty inspiring, company.

But it is strange that she was only saying on Wed that she has minders on her books that have done all the training, got all the paperwork and are all ready to go, get the phone calls but still cannot fill their spaces.

I did say to her that the longer you mind for the more confident you get.
I am quite happy to chat away to anyone and can quite often found at toddlers blowing my own trumpet, loudly. But im quite sweet really. Ask Twinkles:laughing:

But it is strange that she was only saying on Wed that she has minders on her books that have done all the training, got all the paperwork and are all ready to go, get the phone calls but still cannot fill their spaces.

I did say to her that the longer you mind for the more confident you get.
I am quite happy to chat away to anyone and can quite often found at toddlers blowing my own trumpet, loudly. But im quite sweet really. Ask Twinkles:laughing:

Oh I totally agree with you, the longer you do this, the more confident you get.

I think by going to the the groups and mingling you start to network and this can help to fill your spaces.