patevans
20-01-2009, 06:44 PM
After my inspection yesterday I have decided this is not the job for me!! I put my heart and soul into it and it just wasn't good enough :mad: I give up my weekends and evenings and for what?!......to be downgraded well I cant go through that again.

I couldn't sleep last night cos it kept playing on my mind and I have been in a foul mood today :angry:

nell57
20-01-2009, 06:56 PM
Sorry you're feeling like that hun, cant you wait until you're feeling a bit calmer before making any decisions.

Sending you hugs:group hug:

sarah707
20-01-2009, 06:58 PM
Oh Louise I'm sorry you feel like that!

If parents and children are happy then what does one inspector for a few hours know?

Take some time out and work through your options.

Sending hugs xx

tinka77
20-01-2009, 07:19 PM
I agree with Sarah, if your parents are happy and you enjoy working with the little uns...take no notice of what one inspector says. She has to analysis your setting on a few hours, they don't see the other things we do...

childmind04
20-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Like others have said try and give yourself time, like you probably know deep down the grade dont matter to parent but i know its probably more a personal thing, i really feel for you ((((hugs))))

DudleyChildmind
21-01-2009, 06:10 AM
What happened Louise? :(

angeldelight
21-01-2009, 07:20 AM
You are a good childminder Louise

I agree with Sarah - what does a inspector know when shes only just met you and is only there for a few hours

It is more important if the children and parents are happy and im sure that they are

I can understand how you feel at the moment after all your hard work but I hope you change your mind

You have some fantastic ideas and I dont think you should let that go to waste to be honest

Hugs to you

Angel xx

patevans
21-01-2009, 07:31 AM
What happened Louise? :(

TBH I cant actually remember I was in shock!! There were 3 recomendations and 1 of which I dont agree with her writing because it was a proprity for improvement on my SEF.

D was playing in the sand tray making tyre tarcks with the tractors, he flicked the sand all over the floor and in his hair and eyes etc, I cleaned him up and then cleaned the sand off the floor and she said I shouldnt have done I shouldve just waiting until he'd finished.

I took C to change his nappy and D was in the front room crying at the gate (seperation anxiety), the oven was on so he couldnt come in the kitchen and there is not enough room in the bathroom he wouldve ended up standing on C. I could see D and he could see me cos all rooms are down here and I kept talking to him reasurring him and she why I never took him with me?

C had gone to sleep and the dinner was on and instead of leaving D crying again I took him into the kitchen and sat him in the highchair witht he straps on, I gave some paper and a pen, then some toy cars whilst I sorted lunch. We then came back into the living room to tidy for up for lunch as we always do and she said I had confused him when there was no need and I shouldn't of tidied up until he had enough.

Also she asked if I thought D had enough toys out, he'd got the cars/trucks/tractors/construction site play mat/ books, the doll and accessessories (because we had a new baby and he is about to be a big brother) we had done a sand activity in the kitchen, we had the transport lacing cards (he loves transport so was childs interest). I said to her well lets face it if we put anymore into the room we wont be able to get out of the doors!! New baby was also in the blow up activity ring in the living room!!

On one of the EYFS questionaires that the parents had completed she asked would a parent understand this question (cant remember which) I said well yes I am confident that I have shared more than enough information with parents about the EYFS we have had meetings I get feedback in their learning journeys and daily diaries we share newsletters, emails, texts etc. If there is something parents are unsure of I have looked up the info and provided it for them!!

patevans
21-01-2009, 07:34 AM
and the kitchen/highchair situation she said cant I get him to sit on a chair and wait - when have you ever known a nearly 2 year old to sit still on a chair :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

miffy
21-01-2009, 07:40 AM
Sounds a nightmare!

Personally I'd wait to see the report and then challenge it in writing

Try not to let it get you down - you know how good you are at the job and at the end of the day it's the parents opinions that matter

Miffy xx

angeldelight
21-01-2009, 07:42 AM
Sounds a nightmare!

Personally I'd wait to see the report and then challenge it in writing

Try not to let it get you down - you know how good you are at the job and at the end of the day it's the parents opinions that matter

Miffy xx

Yes I agree with Miffy wait and see what the report says

Hope you are ok Louise ?

Angel xx

mummyroysof3
21-01-2009, 08:02 AM
hi, louise

im registered but not actually minding yet so i hope you dont mind me posting

i understand why you are upset, those situations she has picked you up on worry me as i would do the same thing,

my children are nearly 4 and 2, i dont like them in the kitchen while im cooking and quite often have the youngest one hanging off the gate into the kitchen winging/crying to come in and my rule is they stay in lounge or if come in kitchen they sit at table with a toy.

Im suprised she asked if he needed more toys out, what about health and safety, my kids quite often have so many things out there is no floor space to even sit and play they fall over stuff so i get them to tidy up what they arent playing with, and we always have tidy up time before lunch and i only let them keep something out if they want to continue with it after lunch.oh and id clean up the sand too, either just what was spilt or the whole thing as i dont like children throwing sand, seen some nasty eye problems cos of it getting in kids eyes

anyway what im trying to say is she seems very picky and seems to take everything as she she sees it rather than thinking about the reasons for doing things if that makes sense(probly not lol)

i know its easy for me to say but if children are happy and parents are happy then i wouldnt worry too much about 1 persons opinion(feel free to remind me i said that when i have mine)

take care
charlotte x

donnahay0
21-01-2009, 09:30 AM
It sounds to me as though you are a GOOD childminder and you have thought out safety impliations (i.e. not coming in kitchen, no room in bathroom) - I wonder if you had done it the other way and let him in would she have picked up on that. Also, at that age if you have too many toys out then they just end up throwing them about anyway and it sounds like you had plenty out.

I think you should wait for the report and then challenge it. Whatever you do don't rush into any decision until you have had a bit of time to gather yourself back together. I am sure if you speak with your parents they will reassure you that you are doing a great job and thay they are very happy with what you do - after all they are the important ones - seeing as it's their children and they are paying for your service.

PixiePetal
21-01-2009, 09:46 AM
She sounds a really picky Inspector who was picking up on very minor things. You were keeping your mindees safe and happy, how you do that is up to you surely. When you choose to sweep the sand up - oh, come on!!

I put mine in the highchair if it's safer (and quieter!) there. If you had left mindee to cry again, she would have said something to that too.

If your parents are happy and the children safe and cared for, don't worry.

Put the inspection behind you and enjoy the children:thumbsup: :)

LOOPYLISA
21-01-2009, 09:57 AM
:eek: She sounded like a right moo :D

You know you are a good cm, your parents know it, the children love you, easy for me to say as im not minding yet, but chin up, head high, :thumbsup:

Forgot to add " a 2yr old sitting STILL on a chair, i know my neice never did, i also used to put her in a high chair, especially when cooking.

teacake2
21-01-2009, 05:29 PM
So sorry to hear about your inspection Louise, I have looked on your website and the photos of the children in your care all seem to be having so much fun and well cared for, if they weren't happy you couldn't make them look like they are enjoying themselves so much, they would be pulling sulky faces all the time.
As the others have said wait for your report and if you feel you need to them make a complaint and get your parents to write for you as well, she sounded a right picky Inspector.
I only live about 10 mins from you so if you feel that you need someone to visit with or just someone to shout at pm me and I will give you my details.
Teacake2

crazybones
21-01-2009, 05:38 PM
I must have missed this yesterday Louise. But I agree - wait and see what your report says and then pick up the points she made. I think you definitely had an extremely picky one there. :mad:

mookyjordan
22-01-2009, 03:31 PM
Poor you. Sounds like you got a nightmare inspector.

Try to chill out. YOU know you are good. Wait for report like the others said and then challenge, definitely. YOU are the expert here! Not the inspector!

Sounds like bad luck, not bad childminding from you.

:)

desiderata
23-01-2009, 11:30 AM
Hi I am new on this forum but have been minding ages who was your inspector cos I had one for my last inspection and I rang Early years to tell them I was giving up after that inspection. They calmed me down and I have carried on. My parents are all more than happy with my care. As everyone else says what do they know in a few hours If you want to speak off here I can send you my email if you want as I dont want to push you. I know exactly how your feeling. xx hugs x

wendywu
23-01-2009, 12:22 PM
There are no hard and fast rules and it was just her opinion. :angry:

I am sorry but the sooner we all decide to refuse to put up with this the better.:panic:

I had already decided last inspection that if this started to happen ( and lets face it, it sometimes is a matter of if the inspector likes the look of your face) then i would ask her to leave my home straight away. Then put in a complaint.
This way she would not be able to complete an unfair inspection, and land me with a unfair grade.

As it happens she was lovely and very down to earth not at all a jobs worth.

patevans
23-01-2009, 12:37 PM
I want to appeal it but done want to have another inspection :panic: couldn't put myself through that again she was a :censored: horrid woman!!

misst104
23-01-2009, 01:19 PM
Hi Louise, just to say I hope you are feeling a bit better about everything now. :)

Jo x x x

Mollymop
23-01-2009, 01:34 PM
I must have missed this yesterday Louise. But I agree - wait and see what your report says and then pick up the points she made. I think you definitely had an extremely picky one there. :mad:

Yep i agree! She sounds very very picky!
Try not to let it get you down hun. You know that you are good at your job and as Sarah says - you know it, the parents now it, ofsted were only with you for a few hours, they really don't know you like everyone else does.
As long as the children are safe, happy and well cared for - you are doing your job properly.

I reakon I got graded on my paperwork - that is all my inspector was really interested in - if ofsted work like this all the time they are the ones not doing there job properly.

Mollymop
23-01-2009, 01:35 PM
I want to appeal it but done want to have another inspection :panic: couldn't put myself through that again she was a :censored: horrid woman!!

You will probably find your next inspector (if you did have a re-inspection) would be a lot better thant he last, most inspectors are usually really nice, so I have heard. Mine was lovely.

Andrea08
23-01-2009, 03:55 PM
Oh Louise im sorry i missed this thread and lots to catch up on,

please wait untill you get your report and read it through, make copies for your parents and a copy for you ,,, using a highlighter pen line all the good points and see how good you realy are!!!!

it will supprise you how much good points she will have mentioned, if its not good enough in your eyses and feel it doesnt do you justice,, then talk with parents and make a questionnare linked to the report send a letter with the questionnares to ofsted stating how you feel


good luck please keep us up to date dont stop working yet you know your good for the children :thumbsup:

miffy
23-01-2009, 04:10 PM
You will probably find your next inspector (if you did have a re-inspection) would be a lot better thant he last, most inspectors are usually really nice, so I have heard. Mine was lovely.

I agree - you would not get the same inspector again if you complained and Ofsted would be making sure they were very fair to you.

Miffy xx

patevans
17-02-2009, 01:42 PM
Here is my report from my horrid inspection - am appealing 2 things in it!!


http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxcare_reports/display/(id)/230230

Joannechildmind
18-02-2009, 06:35 PM
Hi Louise, i have been reading your posts since your inspection (i know you worked so hard for it) what are you appealing against? and have you sent your appeal off yet?

Jo

peanuts
18-02-2009, 07:59 PM
wait and see what your report says, gather evidence to be prepaired and challenge it straight away

amirose
18-02-2009, 09:40 PM
The irony is on your last inspection the inspector said and I quote
"They (the children) play happily enjoying a variety of activities such as painting, collage, inset puzzles, matching games and small world play. Further resources are available for school age children. Toys and equipment are rotated from a store upstairs at each session; they are of good quality and suitable for their age and stage of development"
Now come on! That's so contradictory - and I thought the kids were meant to be 100% independent from birth and go and get the toys if they want them :laughing: OK seriously though there are plenty of toys and who on earth is going to have them all out on the floor??? One of my house rules is we put things away when we are finished and before we do something different :panic:

My pre-reg inspection was :censored: and made me doubt whether I even wanted to start childminding only comfort - you CAN'T get 2 bad inspectors in a row???? :eek:

tammys-tots
19-02-2009, 06:07 PM
Here is my report from my horrid inspection - am appealing 2 things in it!!


http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxcare_reports/display/(id)/230230

Hi, am i missing something just read report, have you put the correct link, cus it says you had no children on role and you live in london.

patevans
19-02-2009, 06:40 PM
Hi, am i missing something just read report, have you put the correct link, cus it says you had no children on role and you live in london.

Dont know whats happened there, it worked yesterday.

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxcare_reports/download/(id)/230233/(as)/EY283933_INSP.pdf

patevans
19-02-2009, 06:43 PM
The irony is on your last inspection the inspector said and I quote
"They (the children) play happily enjoying a variety of activities such as painting, collage, inset puzzles, matching games and small world play. Further resources are available for school age children. Toys and equipment are rotated from a store upstairs at each session; they are of good quality and suitable for their age and stage of development"
Now come on! That's so contradictory - and I thought the kids were meant to be 100% independent from birth and go and get the toys if they want them :laughing: OK seriously though there are plenty of toys and who on earth is going to have them all out on the floor??? One of my house rules is we put things away when we are finished and before we do something different :panic:

My pre-reg inspection was :censored: and made me doubt whether I even wanted to start childminding only comfort - you CAN'T get 2 bad inspectors in a row???? :eek:

Exactly - its a joke!! With alot of help from Sarah I have written an appeal letter which I will be posting tomorrow to the :censored:

patevans
19-02-2009, 06:47 PM
Hi Louise, i have been reading your posts since your inspection (i know you worked so hard for it) what are you appealing against? and have you sent your appeal off yet?

Jo

I am appealing -

Children choose what they want to do during free play, although the small range of resources available does not always fully promote their independence or engagement

and.....

The childminder effectively uses information from parents to support children with the transition when something new is happening in their life. However, children are not sufficiently supported in their emotional development, in part due to the organisation of the daily routines.

I will be posting the letter in the morning.

loobyloo
19-02-2009, 06:57 PM
I to have just had an Inspection and worked flat out not to get a recommendation reading all inspection reports and ensuring I covered all the recommendations At the end I was informed whilst impressed the Inspector had to write Recommendations.Everything she suggested I disagreed with but she insisted she coulnt leave until I agreed on a recommendation so I accepted strengthening links with the preschool.
I am waiting to see how my report reads
I agree with everyone else its pot luck on the day which Inspector you get with some nothing will impress.Parents wont take too much notice of an ofsted report
Tip re medication sachet of calpol surfices the unknown ofsted rule separate medication for each child
Chin up and keep up the good work I got outstanding and even I didnt sleep due to being despondant by some of the comments Nothing is ever good enough for Oftsted.One of my children summed it up saying she was boring didnt play with him and sat typing all morning and she asked me why i did all paperwork at weekends simple I play with children or are we not meant to

Joannechildmind
19-02-2009, 07:06 PM
yes well said, she sounds like a right :censored:
Good luck with your appeal and let us know how you get on wont you.

Jo

angeldelight
20-02-2009, 07:37 PM
Dont know whats happened there, it worked yesterday.

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxcare_reports/download/(id)/230233/(as)/EY283933_INSP.pdf


Louise thats a good report

At the end of the day if you and your parents and children are happy thats what is the most important thing

Hope you are still not giving up?

Angel xx

hectors house
23-02-2009, 02:38 PM
I agree with the points everyone has made - the new inspections under EYFS - (from what I have heard - still waiting for mine) are so different from how they used to be - I have been slogging my guts out since my last inspection 3 years ago to go from Good to Outstanding but some days when things don't go acording to plan, I think, god if the inspector was here today I would be lucky to get Satisfactory.

The last few parents I have had come to visit (am now looking after the children), haven't even looked at my last inspection details. I tell myself I am self employed and as long as the parents and children are happy that is the main thing.

I have thought that if I get a satisfactory that I would tell the inspector that I would give the parents a months notice and give up - how can they make a decision on just a few hours - my day including housework and risk assessments before I start and paperwork at the end of the day is probably 7.00 am until 9.00 pm - so how can they judge you on info share with parents if they aren't there then.

I'm sure you are brilliant - so wait for the report, then complain - it's not fair that different inspectors do different inspections.

Daftbat
23-02-2009, 03:56 PM
I followed hyour link but got a report for someone called Alison - can you check the link again - the report didn't seem to be the right one from your comments.

patevans
03-03-2009, 06:21 PM
I followed hyour link but got a report for someone called Alison - can you check the link again - the report didn't seem to be the right one from your comments.

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxcare_providers/urn_search?urn=ey283933&type=1&submit=Go

Try this

patevans
03-03-2009, 06:22 PM
Well I had a call today from Marion Lincoln and she wants to come out and see me :panic:

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