Hello,

I hope you are all having a lovely day.:)

I have been searching for Ofsted Factsheets specifically on medication. I cannot find on the OFSTED website and just wondered if they are still doing their series on fact sheets as would like to download the latest of these to ensure all is in order for inspection considering they have changed so much recently.

Many thanks.

http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/giving_medication_in_childcare.pdf

As far as l know this is the upto date one

A lot of the fact sheets were removed for updating and I don't think they came back to the ofsted site yet :thumbsup:

If you are on Facebook please let the Ofsted big conversation team know that you want the factsheets replacing ... they are going to be talking to ofsted about it next week.

you can add information to this thread - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ofsted-Big-Conversation/554719594623176?fref=ts OR let me know what you want to say and I will do it for you :D

Thank you Quality Care for your kind response and attachment.

Thank you Fussy Elmo for your response and confirming what I had thought that the fact sheets had been removed for up-dating. I did spend time on the OFSTED website as that site is not the easiest to use especially searching for information and that was my conclusion especially with all of the changes of late and it is good to hear I have not missed anything.

Thank you Sarah707 for your kind response and suggesting to put them to the OFSTED Big Conversation. Yes, if you could kindly put this to them it would be great. The fact sheets were all about best practice or more informative on aspects of the EYFS, Early Years and Childcare Registers, medications, taking on an assistant etc. and I think useful as some had examples as well to demonstrate. It would be great if these could be replaced by OFSTED. Many, many, thanks for this.

I am slightly confused as to why we need Ofsted factsheets to implement a medicine administration policy.
The requirement for medicine under 'Health' is in the EYFS 2014 p25 3.44 3.45 and 3.46...that is the legislation and that is what we need to follow

In my view I think it is very clear what is expected of us...and has been since EYFS 2008.

Ofsted' s duty is to inspect and judge we are following those requirements and have the right procedures in place ...not tell us how to implement or what they expect to see...or produce mountains of paperwork which is not in the least required and which makes some cms very stressed as they get loaded under red tape...often unnecessary

Ofsted is the regulator not the policy maker
I think some of the factsheets are extremely useful and needed...so we can challenge any inspector who deviates from the norm when it comes to inspection day...but that is different from asking them to write down what 'they expect' because it will lead to each inspector having an individual point of view.

I hope I have not confused anyone but I do sometimes think we are confusing Ofsted's remit against the policy makers?

my view of course

This article will possibly support what I feel...we must not be afraid of Ofsted

The verdict on Ofsted: (http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/oct/28/-sp-verdict-ofsted-requires-improvement?CMP=share_btn_tw)

I tend to agree that what Ofsted have always claimed to be "clarification" really amounts to policy-making on the hoof. :(

I do have a certain amount of sympathy with Ofsted inasmuch as they are expected to regulate/implement DofE documents which are frequently badly-written, or at least written for nursery settings and not a good fit for the sort of situations which face CMs.

I'm not surprised they've withdrawn these guidance documents and not replaced them, as Ofsted's current view is that of "we are not an advisory body" - which really means, "we're not here to help, we're here to criticize." :(

Mind you, they tended to confuse rather than clarify. I recall Ofsted's answer to DofE's botched regulations of medications was to re-write the dictionary definition of "prescribed" to create something which suited their own agenda rather nicely.

Ofsted had a habit of issuing "clarifications" on parts of EYFS which were perfectly clear to anyone who took the trouble to read them. One can only assume they needed to 'clarify' those parts because they didn't say what Ofsted wanted them to say: again, making policy instead of fulfilling their proper remit. :mad: Their "clarification" on numbers/variations introduced whole new elements which were never in the regs: presumably because they have failed to implement the regulations on 'exceptions' as written in EYFS for over a year. :huh:

I tend to agree that what Ofsted have always claimed to be "clarification" really amounts to policy-making on the hoof. :(

I do have a certain amount of sympathy with Ofsted inasmuch as they are expected to regulate/implement DofE documents which are frequently badly-written, or at least written for nursery settings and not a good fit for the sort of situations which face CMs.

I'm not surprised they've withdrawn these guidance documents and not replaced them, as Ofsted's current view is that of "we are not an advisory body" - which really means, "we're not here to help, we're here to criticize." :(

Mind you, they tended to confuse rather than clarify. I recall Ofsted's answer to DofE's botched regulations of medications was to re-write the dictionary definition of "prescribed" to create something which suited their own agenda rather nicely.

Ofsted had a habit of issuing "clarifications" on parts of EYFS which were perfectly clear to anyone who took the trouble to read them. One can only assume they needed to 'clarify' those parts because they didn't say what Ofsted wanted them to say: again, making policy instead of fulfilling their proper remit. :mad: Their "clarification" on numbers/variations introduced whole new elements which were never in the regs: presumably because they have failed to implement the regulations on 'exceptions' as written in EYFS for over a year. :huh:

We have raised the matter of the EYFS being 'open to interpretation' especially when it comes to cms self variations.
At the last OBC in London the Ofsted panel itself agreed that is due to inspectors' training in understanding what the EYFS entails and requires....we await a response to that when we meet next.

The language of the EYFS should be plain English and clear to all as is ...for example...Development Matters and.... as EYFS itself requests all practitioners have a good grasp of English ...lets start with the framework itself?

I cannot believe that Ofsted and DfE do not talk to each other and that no inspector has ever raised a question about what certain requirement actually mean?

I wonder if anyone has ever collected evidence of the different interpretations and grading awarded by inspectors in Tribal and Prospect due to their own individual judgement?

having said that... all inspection reports must go to Ofsted Quality Assurance first to be checked...has QA also got a problem with murky language?

We are referring to EYFS which is a legal framework...there should be no room for unclear language or misunderstandings....we are being very tolerant I think!

The following Factsheet was useful and has disappeared from the website:


Serious accidents, injuries and deaths that registered providers must notify to Ofsted and local child protection agencies
A childcare factsheet

Age group: All
Published: October 2011
Reference no: 110009

I asked by email if there was a replacement and Ofsted said (it reads like a standard reply and does not help really):


Thank you for your e-mail.

Please note that Ofsted regulates all provisions in conjunction with the Early Years Foundation Stage and the Requirements of the Childcare Register and these should be consulted as a first point of reference for assistance in such matters. It is important to note however that the Early Years Foundation Stage and Requirements of the Childcare Register are devised as a form of guidance and are indicative only of the minimum requirements expected.

The Early Years Foundation Stage statutory framework and other recourses can be obtained from:

Early Years Foundation Stage (EYFS) Pack

Additional information may also be available from the following organisations:

· Local Authority

I hope the information I have provided will be of some assistance to you.

Regards,

The following Factsheet was useful and has disappeared from the website:


Serious accidents, injuries and deaths that registered providers must notify to Ofsted and local child protection agencies
A childcare factsheet

Age group: All
Published: October 2011
Reference no: 110009

I asked by email if there was a replacement and Ofsted said (it reads like a standard reply and does not help really):


Thank you for your e-mail.

Please note that Ofsted regulates all provisions in conjunction with the Early Years Foundation Stage and the Requirements of the Childcare Register and these should be consulted as a first point of reference for assistance in such matters. It is important to note however that the Early Years Foundation Stage and Requirements of the Childcare Register are devised as a form of guidance and are indicative only of the minimum requirements expected.

The Early Years Foundation Stage statutory framework and other recourses can be obtained from:

Early Years Foundation Stage (EYFS) Pack

Additional information may also be available from the following organisations:

· Local Authority

I hope the information I have provided will be of some assistance to you.

Regards,

My understanding is that particular factsheet...dated 2011...has now been replaced since the EYFS was reformed in 2012 and again in 2014

The new Ofsted factsheets deal with all those changes and were updated in August 2014 and again in October 2014

My understanding is that particular factsheet...dated 2011...has now been replaced since the EYFS was reformed in 2012 and again in 2014

The new Ofsted factsheets deal with all those changes and were updated in August 2014 and again in October 2014

Thanks, Simona- do you know where to find the new one? I thought it strange that Ofsted could not direct me to it and I could not find it on the Ofsted website (although I was searching with the old Factsheet name- maybe that has changed? It is the list of what we DO need to inform Ofsted of I think it useful, what they count as a 'serious' injury etc)

The following Factsheet was useful and has disappeared from the website:


Serious accidents, injuries and deaths that registered providers must notify to Ofsted and local child protection agencies
A childcare factsheet

Age group: All
Published: October 2011
Reference no: 110009

I asked by email if there was a replacement and Ofsted said (it reads like a standard reply and does not help really):


Thank you for your e-mail.

Please note that Ofsted regulates all provisions in conjunction with the Early Years Foundation Stage and the Requirements of the Childcare Register and these should be consulted as a first point of reference for assistance in such matters. It is important to note however that the Early Years Foundation Stage and Requirements of the Childcare Register are devised as a form of guidance and are indicative only of the minimum requirements expected.

The Early Years Foundation Stage statutory framework and other recourses can be obtained from:

Early Years Foundation Stage (EYFS) Pack

Additional information may also be available from the following organisations:

· Local Authority

I hope the information I have provided will be of some assistance to you.

Regards,

Ahhh, I get it now.............

It's like the Pirates' Code.........

So, all together now, in our best Captain Barbosa voices: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr "....... and third, the EYFS is more what you'd call guidelines than actual rules. Welcome aboard the Black Pearl, Miss Turner."

Yo ho ! :rolleyes: