EYFS Profile query

[Rubybaby]

Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone could help me with this?
I look after a child who will be 5 in November, so due to start school this september. He attends nursery each day for 20 hours a week, and is with me in the afternoons for 22 hours a week.
Am I right in thinking that I should be compiling his EYFS Profile in this case, and is there a standard form/template I can use for the purpose?
I have my inspection coming up next week so need to make sure I have all this in place, so would really appreciate some thoughts! Thank you xx

[Simona]

Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone could help me with this?
I look after a child who will be 5 in November, so due to start school this september. He attends nursery each day for 20 hours a week, and is with me in the afternoons for 22 hours a week.
Am I right in thinking that I should be compiling his EYFS Profile in this case, and is there a standard form/template I can use for the purpose?
I have my inspection coming up next week so need to make sure I have all this in place, so would really appreciate some thoughts! Thank you xx

If you look at EYFS 2012 (page 11-12) from 2.6 to 2.11 it will help you
Look at 2.11 in particular and if I were in your position I would ring the EY team and ask for assistance on completing the Profile...this paragraph is very important

Good luck

[Mouse]

I though the EYs profile was done at the end of the EYFS, so the end of reception year?

[Simona]

I though the EYs profile was done at the end of the EYFS, so the end of reception year?

In EYFS 2012 section 2.6 explains when it should be done...usually children are in Reception by age 4 but this child seems to be in a nursery for 20 hours per week ...so that cannot be a school?
Best to check with EY or even the nursery...depends who is doing the EYFS

I am sure Rubybaby will check and let us know

[mrstom]

I though the EYs profile was done at the end of the EYFS, so the end of reception year?

That's how I understand it. EYFS profile is done by the teacher at the end of their reception year i.e. when they leave the EYFS and enter Key Stage 1

[Simona]

That's how I understand it. EYFS profile is done by the teacher at the end of their reception year i.e. when they leave the EYFS and enter Key Stage 1

That is correct but there are children who may not be in Reception if the parents have opted out of it...or for whatever reason...it is very rare but it has happened and the EYFS covers that eventuality
That is why it is best to get LA's advice in this case or any other we may come across

[Mouse]

In EYFS 2012 section 2.6 explains when it should be done...usually children are in Reception by age 4 but this child seems to be in a nursery for 20 hours per week ...so that cannot be a school?
Best to check with EY or even the nursery...depends who is doing the EYFS

I am sure Rubybaby will check and let us know

I read it that the child is 4 now, will start school in September, then will be 5 in November after that.

I'm sure Rubybaby will clarify.

[hectors house]

I would just ask the Nursery if you can contribute to the child's "Transition to school" form, they will do one anyway regardless of who provides the most hours.

[Simona]

I would just ask the Nursery if you can contribute to the child's "Transition to school" form, they will do one anyway regardless of who provides the most hours.

It is an intriguing post and I am interested in the answer but the transition document is not the same as the EYFS profile because the EYFSP has to be sent to the DfE for data collection ...as stated in the EYFS....while the transition report is between settings.

Hopefully it will be revealed soon...my feeling is that this child is starting reception at 4 and 3/4 and the EYFSP is not required as Mouse said the reception will do it.

[QualityCare]

Agree with simona
2.6 of the statutry framework starts, In the final term of the year in which the child reaches age five............, this means school year, rubybaby's mindee is not 5 until Nov this year so is only entering reception class and so a profile is not needed, it will be done next year at school we would ever only need to do one if a parent chooses to keep their child with us until they are 5 and will go straight into year 1. You can fill in a transition document of your own or with the nursery.

[Rubybaby]

Agree with simona
2.6 of the statutry framework starts, In the final term of the year in which the child reaches age five............, this means school year, rubybaby's mindee is not 5 until Nov this year so is only entering reception class and so a profile is not needed, it will be done next year at school we would ever only need to do one if a parent chooses to keep their child with us until they are 5 and will go straight into year 1. You can fill in a transition document of your own or with the nursery.

Thank you for all your replies ladies....I've called my CM support officer and am awaiting her reply...will let you know what she says when she comes back to me xx

[Rubybaby]

Many thanks again everyone....it seems that I don't need to do an EYFS Profile after all. Because of the child's age (4 3/4 ) on entering Reception, the school will be responsible for it.
She suggested my writing a 'transition' document which I understand to be similar to an assessment, covering all areas and showing where the child is at,to be given to the parents (and passed on to the school if required by them).
Phew! panic over....now to concentrate on the other 5 million pre inspection bits of paperwork!! xxx

[Mouse]

Many thanks again everyone....it seems that I don't need to do an EYFS Profile after all. Because of the child's age (4 3/4 ) on entering Reception, the school will be responsible for it.
She suggested my writing a 'transition' document which I understand to be similar to an assessment, covering all areas and showing where the child is at,to be given to the parents (and passed on to the school if required by them).
Phew! panic over....now to concentrate on the other 5 million pre inspection bits of paperwork!! xxx

That's how I understand it. The profile is done when the child is at the end of the EYFS and is generally done in the last term of the school year in which they turn 5. So your mindee would have their profile done at the end of reception year.

[Simona]

Good it is all sorted ...thanks for keeping us updated Rubybaby
We were all on the right tracks and understood EYFS....relief all round: thumbsup:

Lucky child to go into reception at 4 and 3/4...at least it will be one of the oldest...settle well and be happy!

[mrstom]

Good it is all sorted ...thanks for keeping us updated Rubybaby We were all on the right tracks and understood EYFS....relief all round: thumbsup: Lucky child to go into reception at 4 and 3/4...at least it will be one of the oldest...settle well and be happy!

My DS was already 5 when he went into reception (2nd Sept birthday, reception started on 3rd Sept!). He's been very lucky indeed and was more than ready for school.

[rickysmiths]

Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone could help me with this?
I look after a child who will be 5 in November, so due to start school this september. He attends nursery each day for 20 hours a week, and is with me in the afternoons for 22 hours a week.
Am I right in thinking that I should be compiling his EYFS Profile in this case, and is there a standard form/template I can use for the purpose?
I have my inspection coming up next week so need to make sure I have all this in place, so would really appreciate some thoughts! Thank you xx

It will be done at the end of his first year (Reception) in school. You don't have to do it at all.

[Simona]

We have established that Rickysmiths by looking at EYFS and clarifying that this child is starting Reception at 4 and 3/4 because his birthday is November and...above all understanding the framework well

mrstom...so happy to hear about children who, when starting school a little later actually prove that they are definitely 'ready for school' instead of the nonsense the govt is trying to push that earlier is better.