ages and ratios

[kimmy79]

hi all,
could anyone clarify my question for me please? ok so we can have 6 children, 1 birth-12months and 3 in the early years age group so where do the other 2 come from?
Also if you have say an 8 month old and three others say aged 1 to say 3...... when the 8month old turns 1 year old can you still care for them or does it take you over your numbers?? hope this makes sense to someone as i dont think ive worded it very well!

thanks in advance!

[FussyElmo]

hi all,
could anyone clarify my question for me please? ok so we can have 6 children, 1 birth-12months and 3 in the early years age group so where do the other 2 come from?
Also if you have say an 8 month old and three others say aged 1 to say 3...... when the 8month old turns 1 year old can you still care for them or does it take you over your numbers?? hope this makes sense to someone as i dont think ive worded it very well!

thanks in advance!

No you are reading the ratios slightly wrong.

You can have 6 under 8. 3 of these may be under 5 but only 1 of these may be under 1.

So if you take on an 8month old you can only have another 2 under the age of 5. So it doesn't matter when they turn 1 because you will still only have 3 under 5

[kimmy79]

thanks fussyelmo! oh this ratio thing is confusing at times! i was told on the local authority course you could have 1 under 12month old and three under 5's? i have a 2yr old of my own and she said i could take on an under 1 and 2 more under 5's....is this not the case? thanks again

[FussyElmo]

thanks fussyelmo! oh this ratio thing is confusing at times! i was told on the local authority course you could have 1 under 12month old and three under 5's? i have a 2yr old of my own and she said i could take on an under 1 and 2 more under 5's....is this not the case? thanks again

No its not you can take on 2 more under 5's but only 1 of these can be under 1. Your 2 year old takes up one of the spaces

[Rick]

thanks fussyelmo! oh this ratio thing is confusing at times! i was told on the local authority course you could have 1 under 12month old and three under 5's? i have a 2yr old of my own and she said i could take on an under 1 and 2 more under 5's....is this not the case? thanks again

No that's not right, 3 under 5's of which one MAY be under 1. Basically saying you can't have more than 1 under 1 yo

[hectors house]

No you can only have 3 children under 5 years old - that could be 1 under one and 2 between one and five or it could be 3 between one and five. You can't have 4 under 5 unless existing parents need to change or increase days. Not sure how it was worded on your course but you may have misunderstand the "and" "or" part.

[Chatterbox Childcare]

Apart from your own 2 (assuming they are under 5) you can have an additional 4 children and of these 4 you can have 1 in the early years age group, which age is up to you. On top of this you can have 3 more out of the early years age group (5-8 years) or you could have 4 in the 5-8 age group.

Once you own child turns 5 you can change your age ratio's: so you would have 2 under 5 and 2 over 5 but if you already had 4 children plus your own you could not take on anymore

Hope that clears it up

In a nutshell you can have:

4 children of which up to 1 can be in the early years and can be of any age in the early years

[kimmy79]

thank you both, so i have my 2 year old, a 7 month old starting in october and a possible 1 year old starting september so that means i cant take on any others apart from over 8's? so how do people do the 6 under 8 when it seems so restricting? thanks so much, such a big help!

[vikiwizz]

thank you both, so i have my 2 year old, a 7 month old starting in october and a possible 1 year old starting september so that means i cant take on any others apart from over 8's? so how do people do the 6 under 8 when it seems so restricting? thanks so much, such a big help!

No

You can have 3 UNDER 5 one of which can be a baby(under 1) so with what you have mentioned above that's all your under 5 spaces taken as your 2 year old counts in your numbers.

You can also have three 5-8 year olds AS WELL

[FussyElmo]

thank you both, so i have my 2 year old, a 7 month old starting in october and a possible 1 year old starting september so that means i cant take on any others apart from over 8's? so how do people do the 6 under 8 when it seems so restricting? thanks so much, such a big help!

No you can take on 3 children aged 5-8 as well

[kimmy79]

thanks all, i didnt see the other replies so thanks again. there were a few of us on the same course and we have discussed it and all came to the same conclusion so im baffled really. I also phoned my local authority advisor last week and she said we can have 2 under 1's as long as its risk assessed and the other parents are happy with it........no wonder we are all confused!

[Chatterbox Childcare]

Sorry think I confused you by saying you had two children

If you have your child, 1 Sept and 1 other that is 3 under 5 so you would have space for another 3 between the ages of 5 and 8 (at school)

[SteffiM]

Yeh it 3 under 5's only one of these can be under 1, still 3 though no matter what, you can have 3 more between 6-8