This govt is going to destroy cms and our businesses....they must be desperate having found no solutions to make childcare cheaper
I don't know whether to laugh or cry???
Schools urged to hold sleepovers to help parents with childcare - Telegraph
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This govt is going to destroy cms and our businesses....they must be desperate having found no solutions to make childcare cheaper
I don't know whether to laugh or cry???
Schools urged to hold sleepovers to help parents with childcare - Telegraph
sorry!!!!!!!:panic::panic: is it the 1st of April or something
speechless :panic:
The telegraph is over sensationlising this just a bit... there is one free school who offer occasional sleep overs, which was part of the schools used in the More affordable childcare proposals. There is no way this could even be a viable option for schools :panic: anyway when did more affordable childcare become about giving the parents a break every now and again at night so that they could have a night out/or some time to themselves, because that is the reason this free school offers it.
isn't that a boarding school?
and did anyone read that they are going to change it that you can look after someones elses child for 3 hours and not have to be registered ... so if that's 3 hrs a day ... you could have a house full of afterschoolers ( of whatever age ) and not be registered. :(
Yep, read that too :(
If they stopped spending money on unnecessarily high government salaries, sent a few folk back to their own country to serve their prison sentences and stopped wasting money on crappy sculptures and other needless stuff. Then there would be enough in the pot to subsidise childcare for all!
At the end of the day, all children are this country's future and deserve decent care and their carers deserve a salary that equals their high responsibilities!!
Oh! and the high cost of child care DOES NOT equal high incomes for child care professionals!!
"We are also making it easier for friends and neighbours to offer informal childcare by raising the limit from two to three hours before having to register as a childminder with Ofsted."
Now that has annoyed me...at this rate there will be no need for before or after school runs.
What exactly do the govt think this will achieve? Grrrrr....
So anyone can offer 3-6 after school care, don't need to be registered as a childminder and be put thru inspections, training, hassle etc and can have as many kids as they want?!
:'(
Sarah x
Sounds like abuse and neglect waiting to happen :panic::mad:
i'm not impressed .... BUT ... I could offer my afterschoolies care, and then just run 3 hr sessions each day for EY children and not need to be registered! ok, so that won't help my parents who all need care all day but would be less work for me! did you also read that they want to remove the limit on ratios 1:8 for out of school settings? ARGHHHHH! pile them in pile them high! :(
Who do they think are going to run them and where though???
I am shaking my head in disbelief :panic::panic::panic::panic::panic:
Sam x
Hopefully this won't spread to Scotland, we seem to be well supported up here so far!
So having removed my jaw from the floor I've got to ask...who the HELL are they planning on drafting in to 'babysit' these poor children sleeping over?! Staff in schools are already run ragged! And since when is it within a schools remit to offer a babysitting service so parents can have a kiddie free evening?!
AND I don't know any normal state schools with the necessary facilities to offer this....are we talking camp beds in the school hall?! Washing faces and cleaning teeth in the childrens toilets?! Bleurgh! Lots of schools don't have the facilities to offer dinner and breakfast so what are they expecting the children to eat?! No way would my dd be spending the night at school!
Schools can't be all things to all people...especially when they're the first to get blamed for most issues relating to our country's poor, messed-about children!
Maybe the three hours rule is so lots of unregistered people take over schoolies, give cm a bad name, and then parents use schools/wrap around instead. And we become obsolete
Bunyip...Serco may even be interested...they were after all involved in the care of the elderly were they not? ...and look at the outstanding service they provided!!!
Aren't they the ones who assess people for invalidity benefit? One of their Midlands assessment centres is on the first floor, with no lift and they won't allow wheelchairs on the premises...................... which I guess fulfils their target in cutting the number of applicants. :panic:
Sorry....that's just hilarious :laughing:
Sleepovers at school? Who is going to sleepover with the children? Volunteers, parents, teachers, or just random people?
I certainly wouldnt want to work all through the night and can yo Imagine trying to get these children to bed so they can have a good nights sleep ready for school the next day.
Ive experienced a cub sleepover and its not a pretty sight....lol
Im sure the people who think up these ideas are being paid far too much and spending a lot of their money on drugs....they are delutional
Thinking about it seriously, school children make up a lot of my wages so if I couldn't take these children then I would have to put up my prices for younger children.........
Meaning higher costs for parents or no business for me
The one Free-School that did the sleep-overs only offer it on an occasional basis, so how is that childcare.
Wonder if it's a PTA fundraiser on a Friday night and the other parents use it to go out on the lash! :)
In the US and Australia schools run a far better assortment of reliable after school activities/summer school etc (again bigger focus on high school than elementary/middle school but still) which few schools in this country can cope with alone! Whatever activities my children sign up for till 4/415/430 in the afternoon are not reliable and invariably cancelled -but on the back of this they'll now be open till 6 voluntarily, or overnight?!
Recently at a Schools Awards ceremony DD2 headmaster listed 25 education points that have been raised on the BBC new channel alone in the last month!! ranging from ratios to providing more lessons in how to de-stress, honestly the list was ridiculous!!
I don't do many school runs but echo, no more need for school run childminders then!
My children go to boarding school but this seems nuts!!
Well the issue is solved.
Mum at home for the first year.
Child in school at two.
All schools will be full boarding schools from day one.
All free because they are state schools
Mommy and Daddy can work any hours they want to and go out and party because their little one is in care.
Mommy and Daddy plan an 18th birthday party, buy little one their own pad with the money saved on childcare.
Lovely mommy and Dad only have to fund one year of child raising.
Problem solved cheap child care for all.
:clapping::laughing::clapping::laughing::ROFL1::RO FL1::mad:
Government's long term favoured option is far simpler than that, RS.
Boarding schools for those who can afford them.
Workhouses for everyone else. :p
Sorry but this just get more and more stupid by the minute. Its like they are clutching at straws and pulling ideas out of thin air without thinking it through.
The rest of the world must be laughing in their socks at us :laughing:
Bunyip I thought that was ATOS?
will children who need a sleepover have to pass a special test?
In answer to those who ask who will be supervising those children ...cms of course!!!
isn't that what the Childcare hub idea is about...flexible childcare between providers with cms doing lots of the care, none of the education and in this case patrolling at night to ensure children get a good night sleep!!!
Utterly laughable!
Sometimes I wonder why parents have kids, I can't beleive it sometimes:-
Why would a parent want their kid to sleep over at school. Well I know why really, because they can't be :censored: to look after them themselves!
Can I have a moan?
I had a parent moaning this morning because their nearly 4 year old won't go to sleep until 8pm, he is picked up from me at 5.30pm sometimes later gets home maybe 6pm and put to bed for 7pm. I know children need their sleep but maybe a bit of interaction would go down well.
I know that a lot of my parents would jump at the chance to have their children stay elsewhere overnight just so they got some rest 'me time'. Am I just a moany or do others feel that some parents are just ridiculously lazy and selfish. Not all parents, I know, I am a parent too and I wouldn't dream of my child having a sleepover at school. How does it help out the parent? It just fuels idleness and their lack of taking responsibility for their children.
Sorry, i'm a bit :censored: off.
oh dear Koala !
In the past I may have used an occasional 'well-run' sleepover at school.
I hope it doesn't make me one of the irresponsible idle ones!
I didn't have the luxury of parents or family around to babysit , was in a new area , and didn't go out .
Im sure my 2 boys would have loved it , a bit like a cub-camp , and a big adventure.
I don't think its a bad idea at all , managed properly and offered occasionally.
But , it most certainly doesnt come under the heading of 'childcare' in the government sense - Im sure there aren't many parents with those working hours for a start!
Its a luxury or a 'perk' to parents of one school out of thousands.
Are parents expecting the schools to offer this for free or at a charge?
How much are those watching over children while they sleep be paid?
Looks likely to me that cms will have less children to look after in future so I can earn money while sleeping...considering I have a wonderful bedroom for children, own bathroom, I can add bedtime story, homework, a good dinner, breakfast at 8am and take to school by 9am
That's me sorted and the rest of the day is mine!!
As a parent of 2 children that go to boarding school I resent the fact you say I can't be bothered to do it myself. Without knowing everyone's reasons you cannot put everyone under the same umbrella
I am not defending overnight schooling at all, having children to farm them off is def not for me to have "time off" I work 6:30-6:30 and don't sit down till 9pm most evenings
Please remember this is an open forum pretty much and I am fed up of childminders moaning all the time about parents. If it wasn't for the parents we would not have jobs.
Yep that's how I read it
Sounds more like a boarding school can't see how it would work
Also wouldn't it cost lots to set up- same sex dormitories staffing to look after the children etc - who would pay for that?
The problem is that this govt does not think and considers what is already in place that could be explored and encouraged....their arrogance is beyond belief.
Cms already do 'overnight' care and who knows that many more would not register for it if the need was there?
Rather than say the schools will be asked to help parents by providing 'sleepover' to help them what would have been the reaction had the govt said 'we would look into cms extending overnight care and facilitate the registration process'?
there is a vast difference between a 'sleepover' and 'caring' for a child when a parent does a night shift and that care is by a registered cm...
which would the parents prefer?
These 3 hours care are ok for before and after school, not that I agree, but what happens in school holidays