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    Please bear with me, I'm just entering the world of learning about schemas(!)

    I've discovered my own child displays an enclosing and enveloping schema but would children usually have either one or the other or can it be that they have an enclosing/enveloping schema?

    Not sure I've explained this very well!

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    Schemas are fascinating and I love it when I observe a child displaying one. It amazes me how many different contexts in which they can display their schema!

    I bought Sarah's ebook on schemas and it was brilliant.

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    I don't even know what one is ( I probably have seen a LO doing this ?? )

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    If you research Kathy Brodies she has just announced a schema online training...easy to find her..... or research Chris Athey

    Schemas fit in very well with the CoEL...schemas are a fascinating topic ...take time to research them as they really help when you observe/plan for a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simona View Post
    If you research Kathy Brodies she has just announced a schema online training...easy to find her..... or research Chris Athey Schemas fit in very well with the CoEL...schemas are a fascinating topic ...take time to research them as they really help when you observe/plan for a child.
    Thanks Simona :-) I can't find the training...are you able to link me to it please? Thank you :-) x

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    Here is a link to Kathy Brodie on schemas:

    http://www.kathybrodie.com/articles/schema-and-fairies/

    Also, if you google 'enveloping schema' you'll find lots of links. I like the Dorsetforyou one with the table of ideas for each schema.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumofone View Post
    Thanks Simona :-) I can't find the training...are you able to link me to it please? Thank you :-) x
    If you subscribe to Kathy's newsletter all her blogs and training news will come straight to your inbox....that is how I get news of her trainig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simona View Post
    If you subscribe to Kathy's newsletter all her blogs and training news will come straight to your inbox....that is how I get news of her trainig
    Thanks Simona :-) I'll do that. Thank you very much xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by sing-low View Post
    Here is a link to Kathy Brodie on schemas: http://www.kathybrodie.com/articles/schema-and-fairies/ Also, if you google 'enveloping schema' you'll find lots of links. I like the Dorsetforyou one with the table of ideas for each schema.
    Thanks singlow :-) x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simona View Post
    If you research Kathy Brodies she has just announced a schema online training...easy to find her..... or research Chris Athey Schemas fit in very well with the CoEL...schemas are a fascinating topic ...take time to research them as they really help when you observe/plan for a child.
    Who is kathy Brodie Simona, what are her credentials for commenting on this stuff? Just interested that's all.. :-) xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumofone View Post
    Who is kathy Brodie Simona, what are her credentials for commenting on this stuff? Just interested that's all.. :-) xx
    Plenty of people in this forum know Kathy Brodie as does the EY workforce...her 'Stuff' as you mention is very well accredited as are her training courses.
    however...if you feel you want to check her credentials do google her and you may also call her personally...she is extremely approachable ...subscribe to her newsletter and you get news in your inbox too.

    I recall very clearly posting links to her newsletters here...strange it was never questioned before who she is or her credentials questions?
    Singlow has kindly posted a link but you appear to question ...sorry you are not satisfied.

    If you feel Kathy is not an authority on schemas I did suggest you research Chris Athey....she is the one who ....but I will let you find out more for yourself
    Good luck!
    Last edited by Simona; 12-03-2016 at 09:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simona View Post
    Plenty of people in this forum know Kathy Brodie as does the EY workforce...her 'Stuff' as you mention is very well accredited as are her training courses. however...if you feel you want to check her credentials do google her and you may also call her personally...she is extremely approachable ...subscribe to her newsletter and you get news in your inbox too. I recall very clearly posting links to her newsletters here...strange it was never questioned before who she is or her credentials questions? Singlow has kindly posted a link but you appear to question ...sorry you are not satisfied. If you feel Kathy is not an authority on schemas I did suggest you research Chris Athey....she is the one who ....but I will let you find out more for yourself Good luck!
    You misinterpreted my post, I wasn't "questioning her credentials" simply asking who she is ie. A childminder herself, a Pacey representative etc

    You seem intent on causing friction and arguments on here, I was only asking who the lady was. Not because I "wasn't satisfied" but purely because I was INTERESTED. Why do you always resort to a game of one upmanship?! You must be exhausted going about your day in this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunyip View Post
    All I'm saying is, my New Year's resolution is still holding out.
    What was your resolution bunyip? *(asks nervously!)*

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumofone View Post
    Who is kathy Brodie Simona, what are her credentials for commenting on this stuff? Just interested that's all.. :-) xx
    Children can display more than one schema and depending on who has written a paper or a book the same schema may have more than one name.

    As Simona said , Kathy Brodie is a key figure in early years across the country. I'm surprised that her books have not been mentioned or used in your training.

    Great sign post Simona - her schema books are such easy reading with great ideas.

    This is taken from the Amazon bio:

    Kathy Brodie is an Early Years Professional and Trainer based in East Cheshire, specialising in the Early Years Foundation Stage and Special Educational Needs.

    She has worked in a range of Nursery settings, as well as schools, and so knows what it feels like to be under pressure to deliver the best care and education for children whilst juggling the daily necessities. However, she is enthusiastic that this is not only possible but is essential in order to raise the quality of provision that this country gives to its children in their early years.

    Kathy has designed and delivered courses in planning, observations, outdoor play, EYFS, sustained shared thinking, reflective practice, profiles and SEN. She has a particular interest in training of practitioners working with the under 2s age range. She also undertakes coaching and mentoring, for practitioners with the Early Years Professional Status.

    She achieved her EYP status in 2007, one of the first in the country, and has been an active advocate of the status, writing many pieces for Nursery World and the 'One Year On' government document. Kathy has taught on the BA Childhood Studies Degree courses at the University of Chester and on both Degree courses and Foundation Degree courses at Stockport College.


    She was awarded a Masters in Early Childhood Education from the University of Sheffield in 2011 and has a Diploma in Teaching Lifelong Learners (DTLLS).

    She writes regularly for a range early years publications (Teach Nursery, NMT, Small Talk) and has free advice and tips on her website: Early Years Training and Coaching.


    I reccomend you browse her website mumofone and buy or borrow a book or two from your local library. Or sign up to an Early years periodical where lots of these dedicated professionals write articles for, including our very own Sarah707.
    I find if I read Nursery World or Teach etc..the articles give me a springboard for furthur research and review of my practise. They are less anecdotal than our own contributions to the forum and give a wider picture which as an Early years teacher you can take on board what works best for you, the children you have and your setting as we are all different. Plus they are visually stimulating to.
    Though I am not saying the forum isn't a great place to get ideas and share issues and I have been stimulated on lots of occasions to find out more when someone puts up a thread ! But books and periodicals show professional research, practise and ideas .....and from people who are renowned in their practise which is great to encourage me to furthur study and investigate things I am not sure about ...and to not give up hope when I hit a boulder in my practise.

    Be prepared to have all your paper used for the LO to enclose ( screw up) around all the smallworld people and animals, to be given lots of presents in every conceivable box or carton or bowl you have, to lose the things that should have been in the said boxes, to find parts of toys and games in all sorts of places in your home - it never fails to delight me when children have this schema! They are very good though at making nice 'sets' of farm / zoo animals with fences and cages that you can then use to encourage early maths and order the boxes in size that they have hidden everything in.

    Happy hunting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mumofone View Post
    What was your resolution bunyip? *(asks nervously!)*
    That would be telling...............................

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloraDora View Post
    Children can display more than one schema and depending on who has written a paper or a book the same schema may have more than one name. As Simona said , Kathy Brodie is a key figure in early years across the country. I'm surprised that her books have not been mentioned or used in your training. Great sign post Simona - her schema books are such easy reading with great ideas. This is taken from the Amazon bio: Kathy Brodie is an Early Years Professional and Trainer based in East Cheshire, specialising in the Early Years Foundation Stage and Special Educational Needs. She has worked in a range of Nursery settings, as well as schools, and so knows what it feels like to be under pressure to deliver the best care and education for children whilst juggling the daily necessities. However, she is enthusiastic that this is not only possible but is essential in order to raise the quality of provision that this country gives to its children in their early years. Kathy has designed and delivered courses in planning, observations, outdoor play, EYFS, sustained shared thinking, reflective practice, profiles and SEN. She has a particular interest in training of practitioners working with the under 2s age range. She also undertakes coaching and mentoring, for practitioners with the Early Years Professional Status. She achieved her EYP status in 2007, one of the first in the country, and has been an active advocate of the status, writing many pieces for Nursery World and the 'One Year On' government document. Kathy has taught on the BA Childhood Studies Degree courses at the University of Chester and on both Degree courses and Foundation Degree courses at Stockport College. She was awarded a Masters in Early Childhood Education from the University of Sheffield in 2011 and has a Diploma in Teaching Lifelong Learners (DTLLS). She writes regularly for a range early years publications (Teach Nursery, NMT, Small Talk) and has free advice and tips on her website: Early Years Training and Coaching. I reccomend you browse her website mumofone and buy or borrow a book or two from your local library. Or sign up to an Early years periodical where lots of these dedicated professionals write articles for, including our very own Sarah707. I find if I read Nursery World or Teach etc..the articles give me a springboard for furthur research and review of my practise. They are less anecdotal than our own contributions to the forum and give a wider picture which as an Early years teacher you can take on board what works best for you, the children you have and your setting as we are all different. Plus they are visually stimulating to. Though I am not saying the forum isn't a great place to get ideas and share issues and I have been stimulated on lots of occasions to find out more when someone puts up a thread ! But books and periodicals show professional research, practise and ideas .....and from people who are renowned in their practise which is great to encourage me to furthur study and investigate things I am not sure about ...and to not give up hope when I hit a boulder in my practise. Be prepared to have all your paper used for the LO to enclose ( screw up) around all the smallworld people and animals, to be given lots of presents in every conceivable box or carton or bowl you have, to lose the things that should have been in the said boxes, to find parts of toys and games in all sorts of places in your home - it never fails to delight me when children have this schema! They are very good though at making nice 'sets' of farm / zoo animals with fences and cages that you can then use to encourage early maths and order the boxes in size that they have hidden everything in. Happy hunting!
    Thanks flora, I'm now clued up on who she is :-)

    Nope, no mention of her in my training at all.

    I've just received a newsletter from her on....schemas!

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