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    A friend was told by prospect today that NO childminder would get an outstanding. She was told they are being kept for day care and nurseries. Does anyone know a childminder who has got outstanding since September. Also prospect said that a good now was the same as on old outstanding.

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    How awful. Oh n why are they better than us?

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    Couple of people on forum have got outstanding since Sept - two (donkeys) last week in fact - can't remember who the others were off hand, I wonder if they had Tribal or Prospect inspectors?

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    Like Hector says, there have been childminders on the forum who have got outstanding recently.

    If your friend has been told no childminder can get it, I would query it.

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    She is complaining to ofsted on Monday.

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    I got outstanding in December. My local 'support' worker from the council told me prior to inspection very unlikely to get an outstanding on your first inspection. I emailed her first to tell get I did get one lol and she has left me alone since!

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    I local minder I know was inspected a couple of weeks ago and got outstanding.
    Children are born with wings we help them to fly.

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    I got it nearly 2 weeks ago

    Inspector was from Prospect

    It was me second inspection

    DH also got Outstanding and it was his first inspection!!

    It can be done

    The inspector said she would have to justify DH grade, with it being his first inspection, but she had no doubt in her mind of the grade she gave us both, she was only here a few hours...
    boo

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    A childminder locally to me got a well deserved outstanding last month

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    Just found out this inspector has an agenda. She has issues about childminders.

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    I got told at Pre reg they only allowed to give out very few per month so even if you deserve it you may not get :-( plus for us newbies near impossible. It doesn't seem fair why should it be based on figures if you earn it you should have it!

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    I know it is difficult to get an outstanding and you have to prove you are worth it, but they have to tell you why you have received the grade you do and how to improve. If you have done all that is required then they can not refuse you the grade just because they don't want to give it to you (hopefully). I think it is unfair for people to be told they can not achieve the best before they have even tried. I wonder if anyone has ever requested a different inspector based on the attitude of them in their initial phone call, I think I would if she said this before she met me.

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    It it absolutely unacceptable for inspectors to make comments like this.

    If it is ever said to you then you should make a call immediately to Ofsted to lodge a complaint - even if the inspector is in your house at the time - you have the right to make the phone call.

    We have to challenge these totally inaccurate comments

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    I wonder if when we get "the call" we are allowed to ask "have you ever given a childminder an outstanding grade and would you be prepared to" - if they said "NO" - would we have grounds to ask for a different inspector who wasn't coming with a blinkered view of childminders. When I researched my last inspector I found she had never given a childminder outstanding or even any outstanding elements! Although many years ago when EYFS had just come into place a friend of mine did get Outstanding - her inspector had never given one before and they both cried - imagine that a Mrs O with feelings!

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    Totally unacceptable thing to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie 7 View Post
    Just found out this inspector has an agenda. She has issues about childminders.
    MAKE A COMPLAINT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    boo

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    My friend is going to do that and we found another childminder who made a complaint about her. They will talk over the weekend. The Internet can be soooo useful. Might think about recording the inspection as it is our word against theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie 7 View Post
    A friend was told by prospect today that NO childminder would get an outstanding. She was told they are being kept for day care and nurseries. Does anyone know a childminder who has got outstanding since September. Also prospect said that a good now was the same as on old outstanding.
    If an inspector told me that they would be sent packing for pre judging my setting and I would ask for another inspector to be sent out. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie 7 View Post
    My friend is going to do that and we found another childminder who made a complaint about her. They will talk over the weekend. The Internet can be soooo useful. Might think about recording the inspection as it is our word against theirs.
    You arent allowed to record the inspection without the permission of the inspector I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caz3007 View Post
    You arent allowed to record the inspection without the permission of the inspector I believe.
    Maybe it needs to be "battle of the laptops" then - they sit on one sofa writing up the answers to the questions they ask - while you sit on the other sofa and write down the question and any comments they make!

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