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    How many hours does a child need to be in education to become one of your over 5s? Is it nursery age 12.5 hours or full time reception class age that they are able to be classed as over 5 years of age?

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    Must be full time school. Morning and afternoon, five days a week.

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    In the NMS 15.9

    "Children aged three to five who attend full-time educational provision may be classed as over 5 for the purposes of the ratios relevant to childminders. In line with Standard 15.7, at no point must a child minder care for more than six children aged under eight years at any one time."

    As Rick says fulltime is morning and afternoon at school. In this area of Wales children are offered full-time school the term of their 4th birthday so I sometimes have 3 year olds classed as 5 year olds for a few months before they turn 4. They also cannot be classed as 5 until they are attending both the morning and afternoon sessions if a school does a staggered start or before the school opens for the new term.

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    Agree with others - children have to be attending 10 sessions a week (so every morning and afternoon) to be classed as a Rising 5 and no longer in your younger child ratios.

    At the Somerset childminding conference on Saturday an Ofsted inspector got completely confused by this question when someone asked if their child was at Nursery for a whole day or with granny could she take on an extra child - Ofsted inspector gave answer that no she couldn't, childminder gave some more information, and Mrs O went back on first answer and said that yes childminder could fill her own child's space. Everyone was shaking their heads in disbelief and muttering but what if your own child is ill and can't go to nursery or granny's or what if nurseries heating breaks down and they have to close!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tulip0803 View Post
    In the NMS 15.9

    "Children aged three to five who attend full-time educational provision may be classed as over 5 for the purposes of the ratios relevant to childminders. In line with Standard 15.7, at no point must a child minder care for more than six children aged under eight years at any one time."

    As Rick says fulltime is morning and afternoon at school. In this area of Wales children are offered full-time school the term of their 4th birthday so I sometimes have 3 year olds classed as 5 year olds for a few months before they turn 4. They also cannot be classed as 5 until they are attending both the morning and afternoon sessions if a school does a staggered start or before the school opens for the new term.
    Should have said ag the end that once in full time education they count as 5 in hols too.

 

 

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