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    Er, I haven't had my first inspection yet (been registered for about 9 months, but first mindee only starting in mid may), should I still fill this out?

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    I seriously can't believe what I have just read, they must be out of their tiny minds, and where exactly do they expect all these children to go when they can't pay with tax credits and vouchers, all my parents pay by one of these means. Absolute madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiorjiina View Post
    Er, I haven't had my first inspection yet (been registered for about 9 months, but first mindee only starting in mid may), should I still fill this out?
    Yes absolutely!

    Do you want to be inspected as part of a group with others in your local area?

    Do you want to lose all the children of families who pay by tax credits?

    It is vital we all respond and make our views clear

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    So, if it's the case then that parents that pay using tax credits won't be able to do so any more, surely that means that alot of parents on low incomes won't be able to access childcare?
    Surely that amounts to discrimination?
    Am I being thick, or is that really what is proposed?
    That effectively means that low paid workers will be in a worse position and that the knock on effect of that is the economy/state of the country will be worse than ever.

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    just filled in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louise 144 View Post
    So, if it's the case then that parents that pay using tax credits won't be able to do so any more, surely that means that alot of parents on low incomes won't be able to access childcare?
    Surely that amounts to discrimination?
    Am I being thick, or is that really what is proposed?That effectively means that low paid workers will be in a worse position and that the knock on effect of that is the economy/state of the country will be worse than ever.
    I think it's a case of if Ofsted are no longer regulating childminders, then possibly parents wouldn't be able to claim tax credits to pay us.

    I have to be honest, I don't believe it will ever come to that. There are too many parents claiming tax credits to pay childminders who would be up in arms if they could no longer claim.

    I'm sure parents could claim tax credits before Ofsted came into force and I'm sure they'd still be able to do it if we weren't regulated by Ofsted, but by a designated body.

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    Done.

    Crazy ideas. Dh wanted to know why my I was looking at the computer with face.

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    @ Carol and Mouse


    if ofsted inspect nurseries and cc's and we get inspected by the LA then I think we would go backwards in terms of professionality

    I know Ofsted inspectors can be biased, and I am sure there are loads of fair network co-ordinators

    but how can we all be equal early years settings unless we all have the same regulatory body and inspected by that body...

    having a conversation and saying yes we do this that and the other, but then you get 'oh but you don't have ofsted so can't possibly be of equal standing to us'




    I am not disagreeing with you ladies and I can see your points and are very valid. but I think all early years settings needs to be treated the same and inspected the same
    boo

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    All done.

    All (both) of my mindees parents pay using vouchers. I wouldn't have any work at all if they couldn't use them with me!

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    Done, and it took me less than 5 minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey View Post
    @ Carol and Mouse


    if ofsted inspect nurseries and cc's and we get inspected by the LA then I think we would go backwards in terms of professionality

    I know Ofsted inspectors can be biased, and I am sure there are loads of fair network co-ordinators

    but how can we all be equal early years settings unless we all have the same regulatory body and inspected by that body...

    having a conversation and saying yes we do this that and the other, but then you get 'oh but you don't have ofsted so can't possibly be of equal standing to us'




    I am not disagreeing with you ladies and I can see your points and are very valid. but I think all early years settings needs to be treated the same and inspected the same
    i agree.

    the other way that just popped into my mind is that we would become 2 tier childminders, with those that offer NEG/2yr old funding to be inspected by ofsted, (therefore those providing the same as a pre-school and nurseries)and those that don't inspected by someone else. i don't think thats how i want it to be, as then what would happen if you offer NEG, but don't have any NEG children when inspected...


    (also sort of OT, but ... what about day nurseries, i used to know a chain that had one setting for the 0-before nursery age and then another setting for the nursery!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey View Post
    @ Carol and Mouse


    if ofsted inspect nurseries and cc's and we get inspected by the LA then I think we would go backwards in terms of professionality

    I know Ofsted inspectors can be biased, and I am sure there are loads of fair network co-ordinators

    but how can we all be equal early years settings unless we all have the same regulatory body and inspected by that body...

    having a conversation and saying yes we do this that and the other, but then you get 'oh but you don't have ofsted so can't possibly be of equal standing to us'




    I am not disagreeing with you ladies and I can see your points and are very valid. but I think all early years settings needs to be treated the same and inspected the same
    But it's not a case of "one size fits all". We are home based childcare providers. We are not nurseries, we are not children's centres, we are not pre-schools. Why are some people so desperate to be treated like them? What is so good about them that we want to be the same?
    How can we try to convince people we are a better option if we are so in awe that we want to be treated the same?

    I would prefer childminders to be different, to be a special case, to have their own rules & regulations. We are a specialised form of childcare, so why lump us in with all other provision? You say how else can we all be equal early years settings, but why would you want to be equal to a nursery? Shouldn't your aspiration be to be BETTER than other childcare options?

    I don't believe parents chose us because we are regulated by Ofsted. They chose us because they want home based childcare that is regulated. Whether it is by Ofsted or another body really wouldn't matter to a lot of them. They want to know we are regulated by a reputable body, that we have the right checks before we start and that we are inspected regularly. If a local body could do that, I'd be happy.

    I have been in this job for a long time, well before Ofsted even existed and I can honestly say that I doubt any of my parents would have been put off if I'd been regulated by an independent body rather than Ofsted.

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    I have filled it in too.

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    Completed and annoyed for all the reasons mentioned beforehand..
    Only today I have given up my saturday with my own children to attend a LA course to benefit my working practice not the 'networks'!! While the bare minimum CM's have done as they please with their saturday Again no WTC for my parents means no wages for me!!!

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    I have filled it in and forwarded it on.
    Can't believe what I have read, tbh!
    There's no way i want to be lumped together and graded with a load of people I don't know, and if they think that they will save a few pounds by not registering us then they are very misguided!

    I am really shocked that someone has thought up this idiotic drivel

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    completed it posted on our areas Childminding Facebook group and send to DO.

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    Done it! Looks like we may go back to LA inspections. I have felt for a while that we are being slowly got rid of. There are too many of us and we cost too much to maintain.

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    I am trying to forward a link to my IA and can't seem to do it
    Whichever link I try and add it tells me I've completed this survey. I've tried from NCMA website too.
    Can someone help me?
    Carol xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse View Post
    But it's not a case of "one size fits all". We are home based childcare providers. We are not nurseries, we are not children's centres, we are not pre-schools. Why are some people so desperate to be treated like them? What is so good about them that we want to be the same?
    How can we try to convince people we are a better option if we are so in awe that we want to be treated the same?

    I would prefer childminders to be different, to be a special case, to have their own rules & regulations. We are a specialised form of childcare, so why lump us in with all other provision? You say how else can we all be equal early years settings, but why would you want to be equal to a nursery? Shouldn't your aspiration be to be BETTER than other childcare options?I don't believe parents chose us because we are regulated by Ofsted. They chose us because they want home based childcare that is regulated. Whether it is by Ofsted or another body really wouldn't matter to a lot of them. They want to know we are regulated by a reputable body, that we have the right checks before we start and that we are inspected regularly. If a local body could do that, I'd be happy.

    I have been in this job for a long time, well before Ofsted even existed and I can honestly say that I doubt any of my parents would have been put off if I'd been regulated by an independent body rather than Ofsted.




    Well said, i agree 1000%
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    Mouse I agree that we are specialist and different to nurseries, the learning we offer can not be matched which is why nurseries try to hard to recreate the home environment. I really fully agree with what your saying......


    but its how 'other' professionals see us....

    if we are treated different, they will see as as not been better or even equal, in their opinion we will be seen as 'babysitters'

    heck some of us struggle with being seen as equals right now...

    what concerns me is that if we are not ofsted registered that parents will not be able to claim tax credits, employer vouchers and what about fel/nef/nee/neg (whatever your area calls it)

    pretty much all of my income comes from one of the above streams and seeing as DH works with me we will be pretty much in deep doo doo if it happens
    boo

 

 
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