daily mail report today on aggressive 2 year old in nursery

[watgem]

Has anyone seen this today? a three year old was viciously attacked by a 2 year old in a nursery/preschool, not for the first time, However the staff are being described as Childminders! I really hate it when they do this because it gives us such a bad name:panic: its in the Daily Mail online sporry I don't know how to do a link

[newbie]

The report I read in The Sun says that the aggressive child's mother is a childminder and that has close ties with the school and nursery which is why they probably haven't let the child go

[leeloo1]

The daily mail link did call the staff CMers - it was something like 'the CMers who work at the nursery are more interesed in drinking coffee and chatting than in looking after the children'. :( I did think to the uninitiated it put CMers in a bad light.

[snufflepuff]

I was more annoyed by one of the comments- someone saying they would be interested to know why a childminder is sending their child to pre-school, as they should be capable of caring for their child themselves.....WHAT?!

[blue bear]

How many times is it posted on here about biters or pinchers and the advise is always to watch like a hawk and never have them out of your sight. Why were the staff not shadowing this child after all the previous incidents, also can't understand why report doesn't mention ofsted, surely they should be investigating safeguarding practices.
Poor parents of both children

[candy cat]

Awful ....You can only blame the nursery staff.....the child has serious issues to do that kind of injury.....Why an earth are they not following this child round if they know she has issues....My son had a boy who had issues at his nursery and he had one to one care....I would be livid if my daughter came home with those injuries....a pinch,bite you could live with, but how an earth as that child done that without someone seeing it:panic: ........I hope Ofsted will be knocking on their doors very soon!

[Pipsqueak]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2077039/Katie-Ann-Guttridge-3-beaten-black-blue-2-year-old-Leicester-nursery.html

omg the picture of this poor tot. How the HELL has this been allowed to happen.

[stardust]

How?? This is disgusting! I worked in a nursery and at the first sign of a physical disagreement we would separate the children.
We also had 2 biters are both were shadowed eventually they grew out of it but to sustain these injuries it must have been a per longed attack. In which a member of staff should have stopped.

To be honest if I was a nursery nurse I would be wondering what this girl had been exposed to at home to do this to another child!
I think the blame for this attack should fall on the staff and not the girl's parents. The parent of the 3 yr old could have been un-aware about the other attacks. Plus the parent of the child who was attacked shouldn't know that the other children had been attacked, if she was told this by the nursery they are in breach of confidentiality!
Calling her chucky is just vile and people should look at themselves before labeling others especially children.

Also I think that the child's mother being a childminder is irrelevant. When you child lashes out like that on a frequent basis its hard to know how to deal with it regardless of what job you do/ qualifications or experience. Its not like she's a behavioral specialist who understands and it it extremely difficult to get a child statemented and put under a specialist. my brother has ADHD and it took 8 years for him to be statemented and yet at 4 he attacked a teacher and cut a little girls ear with a pair of scissors.
Its not always as simple as you think there is so much red tape and paperwork ect.

[Jiorjiina]

What is more terrifying is that this nursery got a 'Good' on their last Ofsted inspection, and praise for their safeguarding!

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/inspection-reports/find-inspection-report/provider/CARE/226456

[stardust]

What is more terrifying is that this nursery got a 'Good' on their last Ofsted inspection, and praise for their safeguarding!

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/inspection-reports/find-inspection-report/provider/CARE/226456

Latest reports Inspection
date Publication
date
pdf Inspection EYR inspection report 29 Nov 2011 17 Dec 2011
Didnt the incident happen on 13th December??:eek:

[EmmaReed84]

I feel for the 3 year old of course I do. It is awful that this has been allowed to happen. I blame the nursery for this as it should have never been allowed to get that far.

I also feel for the 2 year old. There are obviously some under lying issues. They say that behaviour is learned, so where has this child learned the behaviour from. If it were my son I would be going down every route possible to find out why it is happen, how I can prevent it, and what I can put in place to correct it. I would be working with anyone who could help me. I dont believe for one second this child is bad all the way through and it is a shame if she is labelled and not helped.

My nephew is a bit of a bully, he is forever taking toys and winding up the other kids and smacking. My SIL shouts at him and he doesnt listen. MIL tries to do time outs but he doesnt listen. I am the only person who can control him. I have given him time outs which he does, BUT I constantly give him loads of praise, say how wonderful he is, he is my amazing helper. If I see him about to do something I just call his name and look at him and he smiles and does something else (nice lol). Everyone else always says "Oh no what has V done again" "V is such a nasty bully" and he acts out for them.

[watgem]

perhaps the 2 year old is autistic? I worked one to one with an autistic child in a preschool and I was hired for the simple reason that he needed constant supervision and support from an adult because he was very strong and had no social skills so would lash out at other children if he was anxious or felt insecure or wanted his own way. I feel for both the 3 year old and the 2 year old who obviously isn't recieving the necessary support. I was just annoyed because whenever there is an incident like this the DM in particular seem to call the carers childminders, and it puts us in a bad light, I wish their would get their facts right

[dette]

that poor child ..bless her
If this had been an isolated incident then nobody could have been blamed because who among us hasn't left children reading in the book corner but the history that goes with this case points to the staff not doing their job properly !!!!
26 kids 8 members of staff but 6 having a cuppa leaving a ratio of 1 to 13 not what i would call supervision.
It isnt always obvious at 2 year old what is going on inside a childs head.
I imagine this child will get refered to a psycologist and hopefuly work out what her problems are to get the help that she obviously needs.
My DS whilst in reception class was constantly hit nipped pushed slapped by a particular child who was much bigger and stronger than my quite tiny son.I remember feeling really angry about this "bully".The teacher was aware and shadowed the child so it never caused any major damage but now they are in year 4 and its clear that the child has developmental delay and poor social skills which werent obvious when he was younger.

[The Juggler]

OMG just read the report and seen the picture :eek: if there had already been 10 attacks and 2 already on this child why were they not watching the child like a hawk. :panic:

i wonder if it is a church hall pre-school whether it is run jointly by childminders?? in any case whoever the staff were they were certainly not supervising a child like this closely enough for this to have happened :panic:

[ziggy]

I have just started new thread on this following debate on radio 2 this morning, i am furious this child is being labelled when she is litle more than a baby, this is down to the staff and parents not the child:angry:

[Jiorjiina]

I have just started new thread on this following debate on radio 2 this morning, i am furious this child is being labelled when she is litle more than a baby, this is down to the staff and parents not the child:angry:

I totally agree. At 2 years old she's still justs a baby. And there is no way those injuries were done in a split second, so where were the staff to stop it?