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maryp0ppins
04-09-2010, 12:23 PM
This is a rant....

I'm about on the last straw with one of my mums, She makes every excuse in the book with why she cannot pay me....

Thursday she told me at pick up time "oh before you expect your money tomorrow I thought I'd mention I have none to pay you with as tax credits haven't gone in the bank on the right day again, so you'll have to wait"

Now I have defo always had my tax credits paid into my bank on the same day every month, been this way for 12 years & never just not randomly gone in :angry:

I told her I wont wait to be paid & I expect my payment in on time as with ever other parent whom never have a problem....

She went bright red Turned on on her heels & said "well I ain't got it & cant magic it out of thin air"

Friday I received text from her saying >don't bother picking X up today I'm finishing work early..see you next week<

I rang her straight back (she didnt pick up) I left a message to tell her I expect my money by 6pm...

Guess what.....NO MONEY!!!

Im fumming & I mean FUMMING......(found out she had her hair done yesterday as she was going out) (my niece works at the salon where she goes, obviously she has no idea who she is)

I've had every excuse & sometimes I have said pay me next week..:littleangel:

Never again....:censored:

Would you give notice?

Hubby told me to bin her as she is always getting my back up :censored:

Carol M
04-09-2010, 12:27 PM
I could not work with a parent who shows such a lack of respect!
Carol xx

Hebs
04-09-2010, 12:30 PM
i'd tell her that you know about her having money to have hair done for her night out and that childcare is suspended until this weeks is paid

Carpet Monkeys
04-09-2010, 12:31 PM
I would add on a late payment fee and hopefully she'll get the message. Like you've I've been receiving tax credits and they go in without fail on the same day every month ....

Wheelybug
04-09-2010, 12:34 PM
Well I've never had any problems with my tax credits - every 4 weeks on the dot - unless of course its a bank holiday and then I get it early!

I would give notice, we work hard for our money and deserve to be paid on time like everyone else. My parents have to pay upfront too.

emmadines
04-09-2010, 12:35 PM
I have a late payment fee of £5 per day that invoice is unpaid - unless its by arrangment, they soon pay lol it ran upto £50 with one parent!!!

Toothfairy
04-09-2010, 12:39 PM
I would add Late Payment charge and when she has paid up, I would terminate contract.

snufflepuff
04-09-2010, 12:40 PM
How rude!
Late payment charges per day AND suspend care. Then when she finally pays up, give notice.

maryp0ppins
04-09-2010, 01:32 PM
I think notice is the way forward ladies. I cannot be doing with the hassle, it's not mega bucks but she did it to me twice in the summer (money triples) holidays 1 being the week after my fortnights holiday where I don't even charge so she would have had 2 weeks full income support to save up.

I was worrying yesterday about terminating (never done it before as never needed to) what if she bad mouths me in the school grounds etc etc...my fellow CM friend told me to stop worrying as people in the school know I'm not the kind of person to terminate unless I really needed to. :panic: :panic:

wendywu
04-09-2010, 02:09 PM
If she bad mouths you just tell the whple playground the truth. She is a bad payer who runs up arrears, she does not pay her way.

But what makes her think that she has the right to speak to uou in that way :panic:

Mookins
04-09-2010, 02:42 PM
silly woman...whack on some hefty charges, stop all care get yamoney then give her the flick

if she says anything to bad mouth you minders will soon hear that shes a bad payer and avoid her like the plague

xx

The Juggler
04-09-2010, 04:20 PM
i'd tell her that you know about her having money to have hair done for her night out and that childcare is suspended until this weeks is paid

so would i! I'd also give notice!

~Chelle~
04-09-2010, 04:27 PM
i'd tell her that you know about her having money to have hair done for her night out and that childcare is suspended until this weeks is paid

I would do this too, cheeky mare, who does she think she is!!

She is taking the mick, she obviously had her tax credits and spent it on her hair!!

Also would give notice once you get your money, cos if she had always been like this, she will not get any better :(

onceinabluemoon
05-09-2010, 07:06 AM
I agree, stick on late payment fees if you have this in your contract (of you don't then put it on new ones!) and withhold childcare until fees are paid up to date then terminate.

maryp0ppins
05-09-2010, 07:09 AM
Thanks again ladies, your making me have the confidence to terminate & hold my head high afterwards...

The things is 4 of us CM within our school grounds are really quite friendly (have eachothers numbers, help with advice & pass on mindee's if full) & If I mention the situation I know they would avoid taking X on like the plague so mum would really be in trouble as she would find it extremely tough finding childcare :blush:

curlycathy
05-09-2010, 07:32 AM
Stories like this make me so:angry:

When I first started out I insisted on weekly cash payments in advance. No problems.

I started to accept childcare vouchers at parents requests - since then I have never been paid on time by everyone cos they "forget" to trigger the payments in time.

This month I changed payment date by 2 days to 3rd of month to give them more time BUT have issued new contracts with my increased hourly rate and a £5 per day late payment charge. And guess what? Despite there being a bank holiday (which has always seemed to surprise parents!) EVERYONE has paid on time!

At the end of the day non-payment = THEFT!!

Good luck with it maryp0ppins - you have done nothing wrong and this silly woman is going to have a very hard time of it finding childcare - tough! xx

maryp0ppins
05-09-2010, 07:52 AM
I agree, stick on late payment fees if you have this in your contract (of you don't then put it on new ones!) and withhold childcare until fees are paid up to date then terminate.

I do have late payment charges @ £5 per day....this is why I have a constant battle with getting correct money or even just money from this mum :(

The amount of times I've dropped late payment for her so she can catch up :panic:

I've been silly I know for ever helping her out, but when it first happened I kind of felt for her so dropped it as I thought it was a 1 off, then dropped it again after my holidays as she had a 2 week invoice outstanding (over £200) & knew she would struggle to pay extra on top!!!

I HAVE BEEN A MUG.........& only just now reading this back to myself I've realised how I've helped her out enough & she still cant even be bothered after my generosity of helping her out.......:mad:

Hebs
05-09-2010, 07:55 AM
did you reply to her text?

maryp0ppins
05-09-2010, 08:00 AM
did you reply to her text?

I rang staright back but she didn't answer.

I didn't reply to the text, do you think I should have??
I was feeling quite angry & didn't want to write something that she could throw back in my face :blush:

Hebs
05-09-2010, 08:03 AM
I'd reply saying..

Tried to ring you, could you pplease return my call as it is important

maryp0ppins
05-09-2010, 08:09 AM
I'd reply saying..

Tried to ring you, could you pplease return my call as it is important

Hmmmm it's a bit late now isn't it really :blush: !!

Come Monday I hopefully will see my money, if not Ill wait till she has paid what she owes which will be 2 weeks money come this Friday plus late fee's money (doubt very much I'll see this) then From Monday give her my 4 weeks termination letter!!

emmadines
05-09-2010, 08:51 AM
Hmmmm it's a bit late now isn't it really :blush: !!

Come Monday I hopefully will see my money, if not Ill wait till she has paid what she owes which will be 2 weeks money come this Friday plus late fee's money (doubt very much I'll see this) then From Monday give her my 4 weeks termination letter!!

dont back down on the late fees now - sounds like she expects you to.

The Juggler
05-09-2010, 10:00 AM
Hmmmm it's a bit late now isn't it really :blush: !!

Come Monday I hopefully will see my money, if not Ill wait till she has paid what she owes which will be 2 weeks money come this Friday plus late fee's money (doubt very much I'll see this) then From Monday give her my 4 weeks termination letter!!

I don't think it's too late if she still hasn't called you. You don't want to be having this conversation in front of all the children on Monday.

Hebs
05-09-2010, 10:59 AM
I don't think it's too late if she still hasn't called you. You don't want to be having this conversation in front of all the children on Monday.

I agree :thumbsup:

Madame Gazelle
05-09-2010, 11:34 AM
If she's a late payer does that mean that you've been looking after her child for 2 weeks without being paid for it, or do you charge a month in advance so actually although she's late you haven't actually cared for her child yet? I only ask because if you serve her 4 weeks notice without getting the money in advance it might be very difficult to get her to pay at the end of the 4 weeks if she knows she won't be seeing you again etc ...

maryp0ppins
05-09-2010, 01:13 PM
If she's a late payer does that mean that you've been looking after her child for 2 weeks without being paid for it, or do you charge a month in advance so actually although she's late you haven't actually cared for her child yet? I only ask because if you serve her 4 weeks notice without getting the money in advance it might be very difficult to get her to pay at the end of the 4 weeks if she knows she won't be seeing you again etc ...

She pays in advance but only weekly. so I cared for him last week (paid from previous week) but as from monday it will be care without me having been paid for it yet!
If I give her notice she is more than likely to just not show again & not pay her 4 week notice if im honest.:(

tess1981
05-09-2010, 03:40 PM
This is your wages and if you are like me you depend on it. I get tax credits every week on the same day for several years now. She has no respect. You have every right to cease minding her children and remind her your contracts are legally binding therefore she wil have to pay all monies due and any late payment fees if you do that. She signed it

maryp0ppins
06-09-2010, 07:10 AM
I'd reply saying..

Tried to ring you, could you pplease return my call as it is important

Hi Hebs,

I rang (no answer) I text (no reply)
Monday today,
I will have a word with her at pick-up time as I've gone from feeling angry to just blooming well sad....I cannot believe she is being this way when I care for her son 4 days a week & he loves coming (even if she finishes early & ring to see if he want to go early..he always Say's no he wants to stay at mine, surely that counts for something)

I am not going to get upset in front of her though DEFO not gonna let her think she has the upper hand.

I wrote a termination letter out last night along with Hubby's help. If she doesn't have my money/doesn't apologize for being so ignorant or act as if everything is OK she getting it there & then!!

Tina O
06-09-2010, 08:36 AM
Good luck with sorting this...... If she does pay and you continue, may I suggest you write to her and make it very very clear that if this happens again then you will give notice. Then if she doesn't pay you can stop care straight away..... Don't let her get away with it. As for her bad mounthing you at school, if she does, talk to her (in the playground, loundly) make it very clear that if she says anything else you will see her in court for slander!

mummyof3
06-09-2010, 09:11 AM
.I started to accept childcare vouchers at parents requests - since then I have never been paid on time by everyone cos they "forget" to trigger the payments in time.



I have exactly the same problem I was owed £225 from June and after waiting until August :eek: they finally triggered the payment and it was £45 down :angry: and I've now got last weeks to add to it! I've told them I want it up front now.

maryp0ppins
06-09-2010, 04:32 PM
oh my god

mum has just sent her new boyfriend round to fetch X with NO money in sight

I asked him if he knew if she was dropping my money off & he said no I know nothing about it sorry....(maybe a lie, maybe truth who knows)

I said could you please pass this letter onto her then for me please....

Let see what happens now!!!

Hebs
06-09-2010, 04:39 PM
oh my god

mum has just sent her new boyfriend round to fetch X with NO money in sight

I asked him if he knew if she was dropping my money off & he said no I know nothing about it sorry....(maybe a lie, maybe truth who knows)

I said could you please pass this letter onto her then for me please....

Let see what happens now!!!

:angry: :angry: :angry:

watch her come round with the money

maryp0ppins
07-09-2010, 07:40 AM
:angry: :angry: :angry:

watch her come round with the money

Nope, no show with the money last night either....

On a good point though, just this morning got a phone call some1 wanting childcare for her 2 children (2yrs & 6yrs) 3 days a week....I go to the same dance school as her & she said it was either coming to me or after school club which she did not want to do :D

so if all goes well I can terminate :blush: & start with new 1's straight away as she wants them to start next week :eek:

every cloud has a silver lining :laughing:

Tina O
07-09-2010, 07:52 AM
oh my god

mum has just sent her new boyfriend round to fetch X with NO money in sight

I asked him if he knew if she was dropping my money off & he said no I know nothing about it sorry....(maybe a lie, maybe truth who knows)

I said could you please pass this letter onto her then for me please....

Let see what happens now!!!

Out of interest did the NEW boyfriend have proper (written) permission to collect the kids cos you could have made her come to you if not!

Hebs
07-09-2010, 09:37 AM
Nope, no show with the money last night either....

On a good point though, just this morning got a phone call some1 wanting childcare for her 2 children (2yrs & 6yrs) 3 days a week....I go to the same dance school as her & she said it was either coming to me or after school club which she did not want to do :D

so if all goes well I can terminate :blush: & start with new 1's straight away as she wants them to start next week :eek:

every cloud has a silver lining :laughing:

Thats great x

maryp0ppins
07-09-2010, 12:39 PM
Out of interest did the NEW boyfriend have proper (written) permission to collect the kids cos you could have made her come to you if not!
Yes I have written permission so my hands were tied :rolleyes:

Regarding new contracts from the lady that called me this morning > all signed & sealed..they start next Monday & mum has even been bank with my first months advanced payment.....
YYYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIIII HHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA now why cant they all be this keen :jump for joy: :jump for joy: :jump for joy:

bexcee
07-09-2010, 12:51 PM
Sounds like it's al worked out for the best although shame about the first little boy if he enjoying coming so much but it's his mum that's spolit it not you. Hope you get the money that is owed to you and if not ring MM or NCMA for advice on chasing up the arrears.