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mozarella
08-06-2009, 07:03 AM
while you mind children if they come with children? and also can you go to freinds houses?

Silly question maybe but was just wondering?

huggableshelly
08-06-2009, 07:05 AM
yes and get them to sign your visitors book too.

remember its your home and your buisness providing you practice safeguarding and not leaving the mindees alone with another adult

dont give up your social life for work.

Chatterbox Childcare
08-06-2009, 07:32 AM
You can because you and not responsbile for their children.

ORKSIE
08-06-2009, 08:09 AM
There is no problem with this at all, just dont leave mindees alone with them. Its common sence at the end of the day:thumbsup:
And yes you can go to friends houses, but same again dont leave mindees unatended.
I always do a visual R/A where ever I go.

breezy
08-06-2009, 08:11 AM
It's fine, but I risk assess an outing to friends house.

Ripeberry
08-06-2009, 08:38 AM
Does this apply if you are in your own home with mindees and lets say your own children's friends came over to play (in our street kids are in and out of each others houses all the time), can they come over or would their parents have to be present as well?

FizzysFriends
08-06-2009, 08:56 AM
Does this apply if you are in your own home with mindees and lets say your own children's friends came over to play (in our street kids are in and out of each others houses all the time), can they come over or would their parents have to be present as well?

I think they can but they would be included in your numbers, so you would have to have a spare space for them. If there parents are there then you aren't responsible for them so not in your numbers.

little chickee
08-06-2009, 09:36 AM
i have been told by my care commission officer that my own kids are allowed to have their friends over to play (without their parents) even if it puts me over my numbers as my kids should not be penalised because i cm. the numbers only apply to the mindees you are being paid to cared for.

you are allowed to take your mindees anywhere you like as long as they are safe and watched at all times.

Blackhorse
08-06-2009, 01:13 PM
i have been told by my care commission officer that my own kids are allowed to have their friends over to play (without their parents) even if it puts me over my numbers as my kids should not be penalised because i cm. the numbers only apply to the mindees you are being paid to cared for.

you are allowed to take your mindees anywhere you like as long as they are safe and watched at all times.

I was told the same by my care commission officer but at a recent scma training session a few cm's said they were told by their officer that it is not ok as the house is only deemed safe and suitable for the amount of kids you are registered for. There was a big discussion going on about this and the lady that delivered the training also said you are not allowed to have other kids in the house even with their parents..!!
So I guess a lot of people are being told different things...which is a nightmare

to be on the safe side I would talk to your ofsted/care commission person and clarify with them directly.

LeeAnn
08-06-2009, 01:25 PM
I was told by the care commission officer at my training, that it isn't ok to have friends over with their children. The main reason being that I would then be focussing my attention on the adult (my friend) and not on the children which is unfair to the parents who are paying me as I am actually working and shouldnt be socialising.

Personally I think a middle ground is more appropriate. So long as I am not sitting drinking endless cups of coffee with my friends while the kids are unsupervised outside then I think it would be ok. All my friends have kids too so t seems like it would be good socialisation for all the children.

We were told that it is ok for our kids to have friends over so long as their parents are at home and they can leave the house at any time unattended. ie, if there was an emergency I wouldnt have to be responsible for my son's friend as he could pop over the road to his own house unattended.

Pipsqueak
08-06-2009, 01:33 PM
i have been told by my care commission officer that my own kids are allowed to have their friends over to play (without their parents) even if it puts me over my numbers as my kids should not be penalised because i cm. the numbers only apply to the mindees you are being paid to cared for.you are allowed to take your mindees anywhere you like as long as they are safe and watched at all times.

I would strongly recommend that you get that in writing

Peppa
08-06-2009, 06:25 PM
I have been tole that my mil or friends can't be in your home more that 2 hours a week or need crbs, is that right?

PixiePetal
08-06-2009, 06:29 PM
Most of my friends are CM :)

We all met years ago when we were nannies. I was the first to have my own children and register - others did too :thumbsup:

FizzysFriends
08-06-2009, 06:30 PM
I have been tole that my mil or friends can't be in your home more that 2 hours a week or need crbs, is that right?

I asked the inspector about that and she said that regular visitors needed to be CRB checked but there is no set rules about what is regular.

claireLouise
08-06-2009, 10:49 PM
i have been told by my care commission officer that my own kids are allowed to have their friends over to play (without their parents) even if it puts me over my numbers as my kids should not be penalised because i cm. the numbers only apply to the mindees you are being paid to cared for.

you are allowed to take your mindees anywhere you like as long as they are safe and watched at all times.

I would check that advice because the CCO for West Lothian clearly stated they would count in my numbers at my pre reg training last March.

Claire

mozarella
09-06-2009, 08:33 AM
i dont think they need to be crb checked for over 2 hours, my mum is coming in april to stay for a week with my niece ( aged 9) and I asked about that andf the inspector said if it is a stay under one month it is fine, but I need to notify the parents of course

MissTinkerbell
09-06-2009, 08:42 AM
I asked the inspector about that and she said that regular visitors needed to be CRB checked but there is no set rules about what is regular.

I have info recently from Ofsted on this one. My parents come over weekly for the day and this is fine with all of my parents - in fact they think its great that their children get to know my children's grandparents as they don't see their own very often.

At a training night I was told I needed them CRB checked as they were regular visitors (this was a week before my Ofsted inspection so needed it clarifying as previous to EYFS Ofsted had told me no they didn't) however I rang Ofsted to find out and was told:

"Regular visitors, no matter how regular, DO NOT need to be CRB checked unless they are going to be staying overnight"

The person I spoke to wasn't too sure and checked higher up and this is the official line from Ofsted - I have this noted on my contacts with Ofsted and my inspector was OK with it too.

FizzysFriends
09-06-2009, 08:54 AM
I have info recently from Ofsted on this one. My parents come over weekly for the day and this is fine with all of my parents - in fact they think its great that their children get to know my children's grandparents as they don't see their own very often.

At a training night I was told I needed them CRB checked as they were regular visitors (this was a week before my Ofsted inspection so needed it clarifying as previous to EYFS Ofsted had told me no they didn't) however I rang Ofsted to find out and was told:

"Regular visitors, no matter how regular, DO NOT need to be CRB checked unless they are going to be staying overnight"

The person I spoke to wasn't too sure and checked higher up and this is the official line from Ofsted - I have this noted on my contacts with Ofsted and my inspector was OK with it too.


I think this might be one of those that the answer you get depends on who you speak to because I have been asked to CRB my cleaner. I will email them so I have their answer in writing before filing out any forms.

Spangles
09-06-2009, 09:06 AM
My dev officer said that of course you can have friends round otherwise you'd go nuts! She didn't say anything about CRB's.

I don't think you have to get them checked out, that just seems ridiculous! As long as they don't come for a while every day that is!

MissTinkerbell
09-06-2009, 09:21 AM
I think this might be one of those that the answer you get depends on who you speak to because I have been asked to CRB my cleaner. I will email them so I have their answer in writing before filing out any forms.

I've had it three times from Ofsted. In fact I filled in CRB request forms for both my parents when I registered and Ofsted actually rang me and told me that they did not need them unless they were regularly staying over night.

I would get it in writing - I have it on my file with Ofsted or whatever it is that they keep on you.

Bex1
09-06-2009, 10:00 AM
Glad I saw this post because I was worried about my MIL visiting to pick up my DD for music classes she takes her too. She stays about 20 minutes and I was worried this wasnt allowed (she signs visitor book) but the kids are ok with her and I dont leave them alone with her. It probaby helps the kids because one is particularly shy with strangers and slowly he is starting to get better!