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My son is 4 {birthday feb} he will be full time in sept. Will he be classed as 5 then for the ratios?
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amirose
05-03-2009, 11:13 AM
When he starts full time school he will be classed as an over five for the purpose of adult to child ratios, there is a statement confirming this towards the back of your EYFS statutory frame work book
As I have just found out they are still counted as an over five in the school holidays :thumbsup:
When he starts full time school he will be classed as an over five for the purpose of adult to child ratios, there is a statement confirming this towards the back of your EYFS statutory frame work book
As I have just found out they are still counted as an over five in the school holidays :thumbsup:
I'm In wales so dont do the EYFS. but thinkt he ratios are the same so thank you
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amirose
05-03-2009, 11:19 AM
I'm In wales so dont do the EYFS. but thinkt he ratios are the same so thank you
:thumbsup:
No problem :thumbsup:
tulip0803
05-03-2009, 04:00 PM
In The Welsh standards it says any child attending 10 sessions of school can be classed as 5 for ratios but Manjay's inspector told her it was only for 4 year olds:panic: not any other age.
As he will already be 4 when he starts full-time you will be able to send off for an amended certificate with him in the afterschool age-group. Make sure that you don't fill all your after school spaces as he will need to move up IYSWIM:) . But you will get another younger group space:D
In The Welsh standards it says any child attending 10 sessions of school can be classed as 5 for ratios but Manjay's inspector told her it was only for 4 year olds:panic: not any other age.
As he will already be 4 when he starts full-time you will be able to send off for an amended certificate with him in the afterschool age-group. Make sure that you don't fill all your after school spaces as he will need to move up IYSWIM:) . But you will get another younger group space:D
Yeah I was trying not to fill 'his' space but as my 7 year old will be 8 in oct he will leave a space for me {i think}
Chatterbox Childcare
05-03-2009, 05:57 PM
It is not when he goes to school in September but when he starts school for 10 sessions a week. He doesn't count as 5 if he has a few weeks of settling in first until they are over
It is not when he goes to school in September but when he starts school for 10 sessions a week. He doesn't count as 5 if he has a few weeks of settling in first until they are over
ok hadnt thought of that.
they usually do a week and half {why half a week i dont know} so wouldnt be for long.
rickysmiths
05-03-2009, 07:48 PM
ok hadnt thought of that.
they usually do a week and half {why half a week i dont know} so wouldnt be for long.
I wish they did that here its done right up to half term!!!!!:eek: :eek: :panic:
tulip0803
05-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Our school does full-time from the start of the term that they turn 4. So DD2 started in the Sept and turned 4 in the November. Some schools in the county have one intake in Sept which includes those who only just turned 3 in Aug.
rickysmiths
07-03-2009, 05:35 PM
Our school does full-time from the start of the term that they turn 4. So DD2 started in the Sept and turned 4 in the November. Some schools in the county have one intake in Sept which includes those who only just turned 3 in Aug.
I thought they went into reception the year they turned five not four?
tigger
07-03-2009, 06:56 PM
At my network meeting this week we were advised that when you have a 4 yr old in full time education you must write to Ofsted and let them know as they will issue a new certificate to reflect this. This also includes your own children. This will therefore free up a place in your under 5's. Happy days!
At my network meeting this week we were advised that when you have a 4 yr old in full time education you must write to Ofsted and let them know as they will issue a new certificate to reflect this. This also includes your own children. This will therefore free up a place in your under 5's. Happy days!
yes i think i read somewhere about the certificate. think ill write/contact cssiw [ofsted alternative] and ask.
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Chatterbox Childcare
07-03-2009, 11:34 PM
At my network meeting this week we were advised that when you have a 4 yr old in full time education you must write to Ofsted and let them know as they will issue a new certificate to reflect this. This also includes your own children. This will therefore free up a place in your under 5's. Happy days!
You would need to change the certificate for your own child but not for others as you don't tell them what ages your childminded children are.
Little Pumpkins
08-03-2009, 08:12 AM
hiya
i have a little boy starting full time in april at school, does that mean i can take another under 5 from then?
Polka Dots
08-03-2009, 08:20 AM
If he's starting reception year full time then yes you can, he'll be classed as 5-8 years. If he's your own child you'll need to get your certificate updated. :)
mandy moo
08-03-2009, 04:50 PM
If he's starting reception year full time then yes you can, he'll be classed as 5-8 years. If he's your own child you'll need to get your certificate updated. :)
So when my youngest is 8 in september, I need to advise ofsted then,, and they send me a new certificate?
So when my youngest is 8 in september, I need to advise ofsted then,, and they send me a new certificate?
yES i THINK YOU DO
Chatterbox Childcare
08-03-2009, 08:53 PM
So when my youngest is 8 in september, I need to advise ofsted then,, and they send me a new certificate?
Yes and your numbers will increase as he will no longer be counted in your ratio's
mandy moo
09-03-2009, 08:49 AM
sorry to take the thread over, but thanx for that ladies