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mumofone
12-09-2016, 09:41 AM
Hi can anyone tell me the rules about babysitting and looking after a child overnight if child is over 8 yrs old and no longer "on your books" so to speak. Is this of any interest to ofsted at all or is this just seen as babysitting a friend and therefore a personal matter?

moggy
12-09-2016, 12:08 PM
If it is in the child's home, babysitting is of no interest to Ofsted.

mumofone
12-09-2016, 12:19 PM
If it is in the child's home, babysitting is of no interest to Ofsted.

But in our home?

moggy
12-09-2016, 12:43 PM
But in our home?

Are you receiving any kind of payment or reward of any kind? If not, then it is not childminding, so it is fine.
And it is not babysitting anyway, as that is in the child's home. So no problem!
Of course, if the child is there in your working hours then you need to consider numbers and impact on the EYFS children.

mumofone
12-09-2016, 12:45 PM
Are you receiving any kind of payment or reward of any kind? If not, then it is not childminding, so it is fine. And it is not babysitting anyway, as that is in the child's home. So no problem! Of course, if the child is there in your working hours then you need to consider numbers and impact on the EYFS children.

Hi moggy, sorry more info - I would imagine I'll be paid. It's in my home. It'll be Outside of my regular working hours.

moggy
12-09-2016, 12:56 PM
Hi moggy, sorry more info - I would imagine I'll be paid. It's in my home. It'll be Outside of my regular working hours.

Over 8s = Voluntary Part of Childcare Register, which you are registered on. So that covers over 8s in general. But to offer overnight care on the Childcarer Register...??
For EYFS we need to inform Ofsted of overnight care and changes to our operating hours. But I am not sure if that is specified for CR.
Unless someone comes along with a definitive answer, it would be best to at least inform Ofsted that you are doing it, just so you have it covered. In writing is always best so you have a record.

FussyElmo
12-09-2016, 03:57 PM
Hi moggy, sorry more info - I would imagine I'll be paid. It's in my home. It'll be Outside of my regular working hours.

If you are being paid for it then you need to inform ofsted as you are providing overnight care.
You can't class it as babysitting as that happens in the child's own home.
So you need to have everything in place as you would for a child in the day.

watford wizz
12-09-2016, 04:29 PM
I do overnight care in my home it is contracted and policied exactly the same as for day time care. You need to think carefully about safeguarding especially around dressing/ undressing and bathing/showering. You do need to let ofsted know.

mumofone
14-09-2016, 08:18 PM
How would i charge for it? do you charge by the hour still (would they even pay for the hours the childs asleep?!!).

loocyloo
15-09-2016, 07:34 AM
Even if a child is over 8, if you are caring for them and getting paid, then they are 'on your books'. I currently have children up to the age of 12 on my books.




If they are staying at your house as a favour to a friend and you are not getting paid, that is up to you. My friends and I used to (and still do occasionally) have each others children for sleepovers so parents could go out etc.

If you are getting paid, then you need everything in place as for a regular daytime contract. Plus I would presume policies etc about sleeping arrangements etc.

watford wizz
15-09-2016, 08:11 AM
I charge same as during the day, if it's regular hours it's slightly cheeper, if it's occasional I charge more. They get exactly the same service as during the day so yes I get paid when child is sleeping. I still have to be as trained, full checked ,experienced, registered, etc. It's not babysitting! Don't sell yourself short and yes I do get regular work.
Remember you will have to sort extra beds, bedding, and the children don't always sleep all night and even if they do you probably won't. Xx

mumofone
19-09-2016, 10:44 AM
Thanks everyone, if you look after them overnight even at my usual hourly rate it soon tots up and is very expensive but is this

mumofone
19-09-2016, 10:46 AM
Thanks everyone, if you look after them overnight even at my usual hourly rate it soon tots up and is very expensive but is this

Sorry pressed send too soon...
Is this considered the way to do it?

JCrakers
19-09-2016, 11:07 AM
I don't offer overnight care but if I did I would charge my hourly rate as I only charge £3.75ph. So if I was to have the child from 8pm-8am then for me, that would be a payment of £45.00

£45 ...sounds about right to me :thumbsup: