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mumofone
10-05-2016, 12:16 PM
What adult initiated activities do you do with your under 3's? When they can't have a conversation yet and can't sit for periods of time?
I feel I'm not focusing them if I simply let them play but any activity I set up is a bit of a waste of time as their attention span is so short etc

loocyloo
10-05-2016, 12:54 PM
reading stories, singing songs, building towers, doing puzzles together, playing with small world together, playing in the water together everything & anything!

generally I set up an activity and start playing and my LOs come to see, or, I set up an activity, and when they start to play with it, I join in, modelling ideas/language etc

today, the 'adult initiated activity' was a walk to feed the ducks!

FussyElmo
10-05-2016, 01:03 PM
it can be hard to catch the interest of children so young but should we be expecting them to focus so intently at such a young age.

Try not to let the length of time an activity has taken dictate whether you think its a success on not 5 minutes listening to a story is the same as a 4 year listening to an entire book and reacting to it but more importantly they are learning how to listen to a story.

Also what started as an adult initiated activity can quickly become a child initiated when they take something and play with it in a entirely different way

Simona
11-05-2016, 07:55 AM
What adult initiated activities do you do with your under 3's? When they can't have a conversation yet and can't sit for periods of time?
I feel I'm not focusing them if I simply let them play but any activity I set up is a bit of a waste of time as their attention span is so short etc

That's the beauty of under 3s...their language and communication is about to explode with the right support...the whole holistic development is very rewarding to watch.

Giving the right support and scaffolding will also increase their attention span...if they are 'interested' they will also engage.
Any under 3 must have the opportunity to develop their communication skills
look up any Child development or even the good old DM for examples....oh! and the good old National Strategies!

Look up the latest reports on children delay in speech and arriving at school 'not ready'...that will help...one came out this week.

mumofone
11-05-2016, 08:07 AM
it can be hard to catch the interest of children so young but should we be expecting them to focus so intently at such a young age. Try not to let the length of time an activity has taken dictate whether you think its a success on not 5 minutes listening to a story is the same as a 4 year listening to an entire book and reacting to it but more importantly they are learning how to listen to a story. Also what started as an adult initiated activity can quickly become a child initiated when they take something and play with it in a entirely different way

Thanks fussy, what happens if ofsted come though and see them just playing, I'm worried they'll say they're not learning :-(

FussyElmo
11-05-2016, 09:51 AM
Thanks fussy, what happens if ofsted come though and see them just playing, I'm worried they'll say they're not learning :-(

But playing is learning and for ones so small the best way of learning.

Ok so I have a mindee here today playing with the my little people superhero toys. Yes he is playing but so much more is going on his imagination is going wild batman has been on any travels to find the joker.
The fine motor skills he is using to wind the hoist on the helicopter and turn the key to make the car move.
His language trying to say I am batman in a very deep voice.
Believe me those are the few things I have observed just watching him then.
Sit and observe your children then look at what they are actually doing - you will see that's it's not just playing and that's what you have to say to your inspector when the time comes

Maza
11-05-2016, 10:47 AM
What adult initiated activities do you do with your under 3's? When they can't have a conversation yet and can't sit for periods of time? I feel I'm not focusing them if I simply let them play but any activity I set up is a bit of a waste of time as their attention span is so short etc

Adult initiated activities don't have to involve sitting for periods of time. Under threes aren't designed to sit for periods of time and so activities shouldn't require them to do that either. Think about the activities you would naturally plan for your own child if you weren't a childminder - going to feed the ducks, running barefoot on grass, splashing in puddles, playing with noisy toys, exploring filling and emptying containers...You definitely have to focus a lot on creating an enabling environment rather than specific activities - so, how does your environment support a child who is just beginning to cruise around?
How did you communicate with your child before you could actually hold a conversation with him? I bet you did a lot more than you realise and a decent inspector should be able to spot all of these things without the children sitting down for periods of time.

gef918
11-05-2016, 01:02 PM
At my last ofsted inspection (7 hours!) I forgot to do an activity with the children. We were too busy playing😄

The inspector didn't seem to mind.

Simona
12-05-2016, 08:01 AM
Thanks fussy, what happens if ofsted come though and see them just playing, I'm worried they'll say they're not learning :-(

Isn't that what the EYFS is all about? play based learning?
Please do not worry about Ofsted....you are the one showing the evidence how your children are progressing and why.

Play is an activity in itself.

Also remember an inspection...if we are lucky...happens every 4 years...what happens between that time is important.

Good luck.

FloraDora
14-05-2016, 06:01 AM
Thanks fussy, what happens if ofsted come though and see them just playing, I'm worried they'll say they're not learning :-(

When you talk to the inspector don't put 'just' before the word playing...take that word out and you have raised playing to its true status....
Lots of good advice around the importance of play and an enabling environment, the other key is your role in their play, interaction that helps move the play forward or allows some next step coverage ideas to come in to their play and equally important, stepping back and allowing their play to develop without you.

Open Learn, free online extracts from courses from the Open University - that also acknowledge your completion for your CPD folder have a good module 'The role of play in children's learning':
The role of play in children's learning - OpenLearn - Open University - E215_1 (http://www.open.edu/openlearn/education/professional-development-education/the-role-play-childrens-learning/content-section-0)

mumofone
14-05-2016, 07:34 PM
When you talk to the inspector don't put 'just' before the word playing...take that word out and you have raised playing to its true status.... Lots of good advice around the importance of play and an enabling environment, the other key is your role in their play, interaction that helps move the play forward or allows some next step coverage ideas to come in to their play and equally important, stepping back and allowing their play to develop without you. Open Learn, free online extracts from courses from the Open University - that also acknowledge your completion for your CPD folder have a good module 'The role of play in children's learning': The role of play in children's learning - OpenLearn - Open University - E215_1 (http://www.open.edu/openlearn/education/professional-development-education/the-role-play-childrens-learning/content-section-0)

Thanks flora, wise advice, I did that OU course and it was good, despite treating I still doubt/worry myself!!