Ratios help

[mumofone]

A few days a week I look after my own toddler, a mindee toddler and a pre schooler and then an after schooler.

I've been approached to look after on the same days another toddler and another after schooler (turning 5 in June).

Am I right in thinking I can take on the after schooler right away (as a rising 5????) but need to wait until my current pre schooler mindee starts school in order to take the new toddler on??

Thank you :-) x

[blue bear]

Yes you are right 3 not in school and one full time schoolie until September when one of your under fives enters full time school (five days a week 9-3) then you will have 3 under five and two full time schoolies.

[mumofone]

Yes you are right 3 not in school and one full time schoolie until September when one of your under fives enters full time school (five days a week 9-3) then you will have 3 under five and two full time schoolies.

Can I have the extra schoolie whilst they are still 4 in the school holidays prior to them turning 5?

[moggy]

Can I have the extra schoolie whilst they are still 4 in the school holidays prior to them turning 5?

My interpretation is that a 4-yr old is not counted out of your 3-EYFS children until they are doing 'a normal school day' so I understand that as full-time education mornings and afternoons 5 days a week at school, so that would be from some time in September 2016.
But with all that 'and/or' in the EYFS Paragraph 3.42 it could be read otherwise...

[mumofone]

My interpretation is that a 4-yr old is not counted out of your 3-EYFS children until they are doing 'a normal school day' so I understand that as full-time education mornings and afternoons 5 days a week at school, so that would be from some time in September 2016. But with all that 'and/or' in the EYFS Paragraph 3.42 it could be read otherwise...

Yep they will be doing a full school day but in the easter holidays they won't have yet turned 5 so I wondered whether I can still have them as I already have 3 under 5.

[moggy]

Yep they will be doing a full school day but in the easter holidays they won't have yet turned 5 so I wondered whether I can still have them as I already have 3 under 5.

Whether they have had their 5th birthday is irrelevant- it says in EYFS paragraph 3.42 about those 'age four and five' in full time school. It is the fact that they are age 4 or 5 AND they are in full time school that makes them out of the 3-EYFS numbers.

[mumofone]

Whether they have had their 5th birthday is irrelevant- it says in EYFS paragraph 3.42 about those 'age four and five' in full time school. It is the fact that they are age 4 or 5 AND they are in full time school that makes them out of the 3-EYFS numbers.

Yep I get that, and that applies even in their school hols I assume?

[moggy]

Yep I get that, and that applies even in their school hols I assume?

it's there in EYFS paragraph 3.42!

[mumofone]

it's there in EYFS paragraph 3.42!

Thank you, actually read it now 😳