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Victoria85
12-07-2015, 03:31 PM
Hi, I'm very new to all of this!
Could people advise me of where they get EYFS trackers from to do the initial assessments and subsequent ones.

Thank you

bunyip
12-07-2015, 04:37 PM
As per my answer on your 'All About Me' thread. Same sources. :thumbsup:

blue bear
12-07-2015, 04:39 PM
What to expect, when? A parents' guide | From pregnancy to children aged 5 (http://www.foundationyears.org.uk/2015/03/what-to-expect-when-a-parents-guide/)

This is a good tool to use for tracking

sarah707
12-07-2015, 06:13 PM
Ofsted want to see us using Early Years Outcomes to track progress - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/237249/Early_Years_Outcomes.pdf

You might find this useful :D

Using Early Years Outcomes (http://www.childmindinghelp.co.uk/freeresources/Free%20downloads/index.html)

Simona
13-07-2015, 08:56 AM
Hi, I'm very new to all of this!
Could people advise me of where they get EYFS trackers from to do the initial assessments and subsequent ones.

Thank you

When you record a summary of your observations and then assess a child's progress you are 'tracking' that learning...and record it in the child's Learning Journey or whatever document you use.
Once the child has achieved the goal you set you move on with the next...that is tracking

You can use Development Matters and Early Years Outcomes (EYO) ...neither are statutory....or you can use anything else although inspector4s have to use EYO to judge outcomes.

bunyip
13-07-2015, 09:04 AM
Worth checking with your LA and other settings with whom you may end up working in partnership. Many have a 'preferred' version of a tracker document.

F'rinstance, my LA requires us to use their EY Tracker document if we receive funding for the so-called "free" 15 hours for 2-3-4yo's. They do try to tell us "it's an Ofsted requirement" to which I tell them "I wish I had a £ for every ignorant bonehead who's tried that particular lie on me." :rolleyes:

Simona
13-07-2015, 09:13 AM
Sorry to deviate slightly from the subject...just a comment on what Bunyip has said about his LA asking for their tracker to be used as a condition of delivering funding.

I don't think this is in the EYFS and it could mean extra paperwork and time spent on it?...which may have an effect on the cost of childcare....worth putting it in the DfE consultation

bunyip
13-07-2015, 09:37 AM
Our county's EY Tracker is just a cut-down version of EY Outcomes. If anything it saves time.

The down side is that it measures ("labels" perhaps?) a child as 'above', 'below' or 'on track' against a limited selection of achievement criteria.

Swings and roundabouts, really. Tbh, no bit of paper is a substitute for a relationship with the child, but the powers that be want the poor little mites documented and packaged as 'school ready' and that's about all there is too it.

bunyip
13-07-2015, 09:38 AM
Our county's EY Tracker is just a cut-down version of EY Outcomes. If anything it saves time.

The down side is that it measures ("labels" perhaps?) a child as 'above', 'below' or 'on track' against a limited selection of achievement criteria.

Swings and roundabouts, really. Tbh, no bit of paper is a substitute for a relationship with the child, but the powers that be want the poor little mites documented and packaged as 'school ready' and that's about all there is too it.

................and I'll be 'school ready' once I've learned the difference between "to" and "too" :p

...................................or even "learned" and "learnt". :(

Simona
14-07-2015, 08:16 AM
Our county's EY Tracker is just a cut-down version of EY Outcomes. If anything it saves time.

The down side is that it measures ("labels" perhaps?) a child as 'above', 'below' or 'on track' against a limited selection of achievement criteria.

Swings and roundabouts, really. Tbh, no bit of paper is a substitute for a relationship with the child, but the powers that be want the poor little mites documented and packaged as 'school ready' and that's about all there is too it.

Any paperwork that is given in addition to what is 'required' in the EYFS is an extra amount of work...even LJs are actually not required or mentioned in the EYFS

With DM and EYO I personally see no need to have anything from my LA or anyone else ...why complicate what is in real terms a very simple process: observe and assess regularly but not in the way some tell us we must do to please the inspectors.

Assessing whether a child is showing progress that is 'emerging, expected or exceeding' is stating facts based on observations and evidence...not a label ...I recall doing that as far back as 1993 ...it is not new

Ready for school is not something I follow as it seems to be Wilshaw's obsession...children are ready for school when emotionally mature and ready to absorb formal schooling...that is not at age 2, 3 or even 4....if it was the entire world would put children in school at that age and no research is going to make me change my mind...read HMCI's speech yesterday and that sounds like social engineering to me.

mumofone
14-07-2015, 07:02 PM
Any paperwork that is given in addition to what is 'required' in the EYFS is an extra amount of work...even LJs are actually not required or mentioned in the EYFS

With DM and EYO I personally see no need to have anything from my LA or anyone else ...why complicate what is in real terms a very simple process: observe and assess regularly but not in the way some tell us we must do to please the inspectors.

Assessing whether a child is showing progress that is 'emerging, expected or exceeding' is stating facts based on observations and evidence...not a label ...I recall doing that as far back as 1993 ...it is not new

Ready for school is not something I follow as it seems to be Wilshaw's obsession...children are ready for school when emotionally mature and ready to absorb formal schooling...that is not at age 2, 3 or even 4....if it was the entire world would put children in school at that age and no research is going to make me change my mind...read HMCI's speech yesterday and that sounds like social engineering to me.

Argh I knew I'd read this somewhere!!! Why are we all doing LJs (or so it seems) if they are not necessary? That's a question to myself as much as you guys! :-)

FussyElmo
14-07-2015, 07:48 PM
Argh I knew I'd read this somewhere!!! Why are we all doing LJs (or so it seems) if they are not necessary? That's a question to myself as much as you guys! :-)

You have to show progress the child is making if you don't have a lj how would you do this?

A lj may not be a actual requirement but it's actually a very easy way if showing progress. It also helps you when you are being inspected you have it to show not have to talk through 😊

Simona
14-07-2015, 08:14 PM
Argh I knew I'd read this somewhere!!! Why are we all doing LJs (or so it seems) if they are not necessary? That's a question to myself as much as you guys! :-)

Most providers call it LJ...you can call it what suits you best, I do not call it LJ
In a way LJ is a 'common word' and we all know what we are talking about when we refer to it!
We are certainly required to show assessment and progress but the EYFS does not specify the format or document we prepare....all it asks is to show what is necessary to promote L&D and I suppose ...evidence it!

mumofone
14-07-2015, 08:23 PM
Thanks guys, I think I recall that this is what moggy (I think) previously mentioned, it's all coming back to me now! :-) thanks guys x

Simona
15-07-2015, 08:00 AM
Thanks guys, I think I recall that this is what moggy (I think) previously mentioned, it's all coming back to me now! :-) thanks guys x

Ahhh...I seem to have missed the comment by Moggy...or was it in another thread?