Who would u move?!!

[smurfette]

Ok so conundrum here.. I have five smallies throughout the week

1. Three days a week, actively looking to move out of area
2. Two days a week, dad on temp contract
Til June, but mum expecting baby aug,
Won't be in position to pay me while on maternity so leaving either June or July
3. Five / six days a month, leaving mid may but mum hoping to finish earlier as pregnant and not feeling well

Have also lost one at Christmas left the country, so have been advertising

Have had two viewings for a four day a week space, both Monday to Thursday which is what I want. One last night definitely wants me for An as soon as possible start (min 4 weeks as has to give nursery notice) has been looking for a space with me for a while. One earlier in week seemed very keen but was seeing someone else later this week, said would come back to me at weekend (April start)

In an ideal world would love to take on both of these two as I already have one monday to Thursday and would like Fridays off and just to deal with three sets of parents! Has been bitty part timers last year hard fitting everyone around everyone! I don't know for sure mum 2 wants me but mum one is pushing me for a start
Date and what I do depends on whether mum 2 wants me!

The above little ones all seem to be definitely leaving me (suppose there is a slim chance mindee 1 may not move out of area) my problem is they don't really intend on leaving by the time the new people want me!

To fit mum one in I have to either let someone go or move someone's days. Problem is if I take on mum 2, will have to let them go AFTER moving their days which I really don't want to do. Rather a clean break if I am going to have to, than messing then around

Before anyone is judgemental ! Just to say we really need all my money and for me to be full, can't survive on hubby's money. Wouldn't take someone on knowing I would let them go if something better comes along but since they are all leaving anyways am considering terminating early if something to suit comes along .. Business head on!!

So I guess leaving aside the mum 2 who may or may not want me, I can fit mum one in if I move mindee one or two. Do I move the one who is definitely going but not for six months, who is only two days a week, or the one who may or may not go but if she does will be soonish I imagine and is three days a week?! New days won't particularly suit mindee two, she was on Monday Tuesday but has family help out and Monday didn't work so well for them . But then it's not for that long as she will be off on maternity !! Aarrgghh really hate this job sometimes!!

If you are still with me please advice!! (And won't be asking parents will be telling them cos I asked parents before to move days and they said no and I missed a potential contract only for them to dump me four months later!)

Sorry sorry sorry for long post!!

[unalindura77]

[QUOTE=murphf;1336230]Ok so conundrum here.. I have five smallies throughout the week

1. Three days a week, actively looking to move out of area
2. Two days a week, dad on temp contract
Til June, but mum expecting baby aug,
Won't be in position to pay me while on maternity so leaving either June or July
3. Five / six days a month, leaving mid may but mum hoping to finish earlier as pregnant and not feeling well

Have also lost one at Christmas left the country, so have been advertising

Have had two viewings for a four day a week space, both Monday to Thursday which is what I want. One last night definitely wants me for An as soon as possible start (min 4 weeks as has to give nursery notice) has been looking for a space with me for a while. One earlier in week seemed very keen but was seeing someone else later this week, said would come back to me at weekend (April start)

In an ideal world would love to take on both of these two as I already have one monday to Thursday and would like Fridays off and just to deal with three sets of parents! Has been bitty part timers last year hard fitting everyone around everyone! I don't know for sure mum 2 wants me but mum one is pushing me for a start
Date and what I do depends on whether mum 2 wants me!

The above little ones all seem to be definitely leaving me (suppose there is a slim chance mindee 1 may not move out of area) my problem is they don't really intend on leaving by the time the new people want me!

To fit mum one in I have to either let someone go or move someone's days. Problem is if I take on mum 2, will have to let them go AFTER moving their days which I really don't want to do. Rather a clean break if I am going to have to, than messing then around

Before anyone is judgemental ! Just to say we really need all my money and for me to be full, can't survive on hubby's money. Wouldn't take someone on knowing I would let them go if something better comes along but since they are all leaving anyways am considering terminating early if something to suit comes along .. Business head on!!

So I guess leaving aside the mum 2 who may or may not want me, I can fit mum one in if I move mindee one or two. Do I move the one who is definitely going but not for six months, who is only two days a week, or the one who may or may not go but if she does will be soonish I imagine and is three days a week?! New days won't particularly suit mindee two, she was on Monday Tuesday but has family help out and Monday didn't work so well for them . But then it's not for that long as she will be off on maternity !! Aarrgghh really hate this job sometimes!!

If you are still with me please advice!! (And won't be asking parents will be telling them cos I asked parents before to move days and they said no and I missed a potential contract only for them to dump me four months later!)

Sorry sorry sorry for long post!![/QUOT


Instead of asking to move their days TELL them you now have only xxx available and are giving 4 weeks notice to change of days, how about that? Then they take or leave

[smurfette]

Thank you for your reply! Writing it down and your response really helped clarify it for me!

Since mum 1 has to give four weeks notice to creche I rang her this pm and said I could start him four weeks from when I get deposit and contracts but would need 4 weeks as have to rearrange another parent..but earliest I could start was 5 weeks time the 3rd march. This I think gives me a week to follow up other parent who might want the space and build up courage to give existing parents notice of change of days (take it or leave it as you say!) or notice to leave..if other mum wants me I will give notice, horrible as it is they are leaving and I can't wait for them to all leave at different times as I will either be left down money or filling odd days here and there all over the place


Mum one happy with that , had said she would. Like to come again at weekend as she would like to see garde and where dog is in daylight which is fair enough but a bit grr as garden is a bit messy at mo with the weather and Los are just using the decking so will have to spend time at weekend getting it in order but she will pay deposit then if happy and give notice to creche on Monday

Happy in my head this is best way to do it so thank you for taking time to reply!!

[candy cat]

I would probably give notice to 1 and 3 as 2 may be future business when the baby comes along :0)

[smurfette]

I would probably give notice to 1 and 3 as 2 may be future business when the baby comes along :0)

Hmm that's an interesting view on it! Don't think she will pay while on maternity ESP as Lo is due for the free nursery year in sept so will get 5 mornings a week out of the house, but if I keep her to the end she may come back later hmmmm!

Think it hinges really on whether mum one wants me, will follow up today, if not I will probably do that!

[unalindura77]

Aw I'm so glad I could help, I know how you feel it really isn't easy finding a balance between doing the honorable thing (when no one does it for you) and having a business head.

Wish you all the best, and yes it's SO annoying when you have to get everything ready like you say, your garden.


All the best!

[unalindura77]

Personally I hate those 'second visits' and find them draining!

[smurfette]

Personally I hate those 'second visits' and find them draining!

Inside I was going 'nnnooooo'!!!! Though I was saying 'yes of course that's no problem' lol!!!

[Mouse]

I would definitely hold off doing anything until mum has been back, signed everything and paid the deposit.

I'm more than happy with the second visits that want to bring the dad along, or the second visit because they want to get signed up.
I'd be much more wary of the 'definitely wants you' second visit who 'just' wants to check out the garden and the dog. What if they're not happy with one or the other?

[smurfette]

I would definitely hold off doing anything until mum has been back, signed everything and paid the deposit. I'm more than happy with the second visits that want to bring the dad along, or the second visit because they want to get signed up. I'd be much more wary of the 'definitely wants you' second visit who 'just' wants to check out the garden and the dog. What if they're not happy with one or the other?

Yes I have to say I have never had this before but am kinda surprised I haven't .. Our dog is a German shepherd and have signed people up before who have never met her or seen the garden as they have come in the evening when dark! She is bringing her mum who will be doing some of the pick ups so don't know if she is fussy... Baby has been moved from one creche to another and parents not been happy with either.. Sugar as I am writing this am wondering if I have an over fussy parent who will be a nightmare on my hands!! She seemed relaxed though the other night..: aarrgghh!!

[caz3007]

Oh dear if baby has been moved around, it doesn't sound too good, but perhaps a cm is what mum needs.

Back to your original post I am assuming you are flexible for 3, so would just tell parents that you are having to change the contract and puck can only offer certain days. 1 May not move and it may take time and 2 has potential for baby to come if mum goes back to work in the future

[jackie 7]

I would wait until they sign then give notice to 1 and3. Good luck with the clean up. You have had so much rain it will be hard.

[smurfette]

Thanks all, yes Jackie big job cleaning up the Garden, have just been using the decking with the gate shut for the little ones now it's wetter!

Anyways, she came today with mum, didn't bring contract or deposit as has run into problems sorting care for him for Fridays but really wants to send him to me, she was very complimentary and granny was lovely., after all the hard work they didn't go out in garden as it was snowing! But could see from window and were happy with where dog was. Have agreed to look after him Fridays until end of may, then they are ok for the summer and we are all hoping by sept they might be able to sort something. So she is coming back tomorrow with deposit and contract! Am very happy, starts 3rd march

Then, had text from mum one who says Lo is in hospital with infection and won't be out Til tomorrow earliest, and so she won't see the other minder Til later in week. I text back Saying hope Lo ok, have filled one of my two spaces but would like to give her first refusal on the second one so if she can come back to me by Friday.

So will see don't think she will make up baby in Hosp but she is obviously in no rush to decide on care, not that I blame her! If I know by Friday I have time to rearrange or give notice so I think I will just have to hold fire!!

Hope I haven't scared her off putting a time scale on it but like I said before I need to not rearrange people and then also have to give notice it's one or the other so need to know!

[smurfette]

Well after all ****** that! She came last night with contract and deposit, all happy blah blah and dog was in kitchen, she didn't want to meet her said she was lovely etc and has just this minute rang to say she can't get over dog and now isn't gonna go with me! Will give deposit back since it was only last night can't in conscience keep it, luckily haven't yet given notice to parents as was waiting to hear from other mum (her Lo was in Hosp at weekend so waiting Til end of week)


Aaarrrrhghhh!!!

Just had enquiry for twin boys aged 1 just moving to our road so dunno

[smurfette]

What a waste of a weekend we killed ourselves getting garden tidy.. Am so cross

[Mouse]

That is very annoying.

If you are going to refund the deposit I would take something out to cover the cost of the paperwork.

[smurfette]

That is very annoying. If you are going to refund the deposit I would take something out to cover the cost of the paperwork.

Luckily I do my own contracts and I emailed it to her and she printed it herself so no costs really just the time to do the garden and meet with her three times .. Once on initial visit, once with granny to see where dog is and last night she was here an hour chatting and bringing contract and deposit

[FloraDora]

Interesting situation, given the thought parents had put into choosing you. Something evey CM with a dog needs to keep in mind.
I have been clear that my lab is part of the family, those who have been unsure about dogs I have said on initial visit that I don't think it will work if they are not happy around dogs.


Deposit wise if you paid for a holiday, car, etc... And then decided the next day you didn't want it...you would not get your deposit back.

[Mouse]

Deposit wise if you paid for a holiday, car, etc... And then decided the next day you didn't want it...you would not get your deposit back.

Yes, a mum of mine decided to put her child in a private nursery. She signed up & paid the registration fee, then changed her mind & cancelled the next day. She didn't get any of her money back.

[smurfette]

The dad is a solicitor so don't think I will argue that one,, would have done if I had rearranged or given notice to other parents

I did check about the dog before she even
Came and again at first visit, and given reassurance since! Don't know what else I could
Have done really .....

[unalindura77]

Did you already say you'd give back deposit?

If not don't say anything and let her ask for it!! If she signed everything etc and it's in your terms and conditions etc, she has no right to it or at least I don't think she does...

[smurfette]

Did you already say you'd give back deposit? If not don't say anything and let her ask for it!! If she signed everything etc and it's in your terms and conditions etc, she has no right to it or at least I don't think she does...

I did say she could have it back cos she was angling for it, it does actually clearly state that should you decide not to take up space it's non refundable...

[hectors house]

Better you find out now that she is a time waster, think I would have deducted 10% of deposit for time and effort spend on her visits but tidying up the garden is never a waste of time, at least it is done for when the next parents visit. :thumbsup:

[smurfette]

Better you find out now that she is a time waster, think I would have deducted 10% of deposit for time and effort spend on her visits but tidying up the garden is never a waste of time, at least it is done for when the next parents visit. :thumbsup:

It needed doing problem is it is so wet here (Dublin) that it will be wrecked
Again and need doing again in a couple of
Weeks

[FloraDora]

It needed doing problem is it is so wet here (Dublin) that it will be wrecked
Again and need doing again in a couple of
Weeks

One of the pluses of CM for me is that I can continue to garden. We are in it every day, unless its really awful weather, I play with the LO's they play on their own ( mainly digging for worms at the moment!) I trim, clear, prepare veg plots, they help with wellies on, waterproofs, wheelbarrows, mini tools, we plant things on in their mud kitchen, mix up special soil for the plants in their mud kitchen. We take refuge in the greenhouse when a downpour comes, sing, care for the greenhouse plants, dig in the tomato bed in there....we have greenhouse glubs...little people who hide when we go in so we have to find them and sing them a song to make them not scared...thankyou for my friends, special verse, if your happy etc.. We decide where they would like to hide in case the dog comes in our absence, 2 weeks later when we have to take refuge again they are already there, hiding.

I find children love gardening, clearing leaves etc.. 'Sound Foundations' recommend 3 hours a day physical - gardening helps towards that target.....and my fitness ....and the garden stays safe and good to play in all year round.

[smurfette]

One of the pluses of CM for me is that I can continue to garden. We are in it every day, unless its really awful weather, I play with the LO's they play on their own ( mainly digging for worms at the moment!) I trim, clear, prepare veg plots, they help with wellies on, waterproofs, wheelbarrows, mini tools, we plant things on in their mud kitchen, mix up special soil for the plants in their mud kitchen. We take refuge in the greenhouse when a downpour comes, sing, care for the greenhouse plants, dig in the tomato bed in there....we have greenhouse glubs...little people who hide when we go in so we have to find them and sing them a song to make them not scared...thankyou for my friends, special verse, if your happy etc.. We decide where they would like to hide in case the dog comes in our absence, 2 weeks later when we have to take refuge again they are already there, hiding. I find children love gardening, clearing leaves etc.. 'Sound Foundations' recommend 3 hours a day physical - gardening helps towards that target.....and my fitness ....and the garden stays safe and good to play in all year round.

Wouldn't work for me have a 150 foot garden and all mine are one year olds

[unalindura77]

I would only give her 50% back if I did give her anything back

I think I would be tempted to say, I'm sorry please refer to terms and conditions, you nearly gave notice to someone else...

Ah well, I know it's much easier said than done ( I'm pretending to be tough but accepted a sick baby today!)

[smurfette]

And.. Surprise surprise just had text from mum one to say she is going with other minder so back to drawing Board!

[jackie 7]

I hope you get the twins. You might try to build an arc!!!

[smurfette]

[QUOTE="jackie 7;1338544"]I hope you get the twins. You might try to build an arc!!![/QUOTE

Met twins parents last night lovely people lots of questions, asked for a discount so gave them a small one but also wanted a couple of weeks holidays with no fees.. Jog on. ! Was ok when I said no, wanted my refs to ring (never had that before but there you go!)

Am a bit concerned because they move to the road in two weeks time but I can't take them for four or five weeks if they want me, as I have to give notice to ones leaving, and their main reason for change is the nursery is opposite direction to work.. Am worried if they continue to nursery for a couple of weeks they will decide its do able! Would realistically add half hour or more to journey each end of day, and I am only 8 doors down!

They didn't bring babies as it was too late for them so think if they want to go ahead I will ask for a meeting with them.. Should I be worried?! Dh says kids could be a nightmare but haven't met one yet who I can't handle.. They are only 12 months so mouldable enough I hope!

[smurfette]

Finally had email back from mum of twins yest more than two weeks after they visited! They have moved now and she apologised for delay in getting back to me and said they had been caught up with move and still dithering as boys are settled in nursery. Said she would come back to me later if they went route of minder but she knows I may have filled my spaces by then

Enquiries coming in now for June so have sent email to mum who is due baby in July asking whether Lo is staying or leaving , though dad's job is temp Til June so don't suppose she knows really!!

[smurfette]

Oh lol the parent who is moving house just told me she is pregnant again.. So if she stays more business cos last time she left lo with me when she was on maternity and then I fit baby in when I could, but I am guessing this is why the house is too small all of a sudden!! She has promised to give me plenty of notice if they move but they won't be in a chain cos they are renting their current house not selling so can see this might not be possible.

Btw that the third of my mommies expecting all in three months! Something in the water at mine, I only have five mommies!

[lizduncan72]

Btw that the third of my mommies expecting all in three months! Something in the water at mine, I only have five mommies![/QUOTE]

I had the same two years ago-only had two mummies and both were expecting at the same time with babies born three days apart!!! Now got both little ones along with their big brothers :)

[smurfette]

Btw that the third of my mommies expecting all in three months! Something in the water at mine, I only have five mommies! I had the same two years ago-only had two mummies and both were expecting at the same time with babies born three days apart!!! Now got both little ones along with their big brothers :)[/QUOTE]

Well see this is a possibility just I can't see them paying me while on maternity so how can you hold the spaces?!