Notice boards and Ofsted poster?

[Glitter]

Hello everyone.

After having nearly two weeks off work I have decided I prefer my house not cluttered up with child minding equipment (especially as I am only working part time at the moment). I have decided to get rid of some of the equipment I don't use (do I need three single pushchairs?) and try to make it easier to put everything away at the end of the day so it is out of sight.

I am hoping to get a smaller notice board so it will be less conspicuous. Does any one know if I can edit the Ofsted poster to remove the photo so it will take up less space? And what other information do we have to have on a notice board?

Thank you to anyone who can help.

[Rick]

Pretty sure you can't remove anything from the Ofsted poster

[Glitter]

Bother. Looks like the whole thing will have to go on the notice board.:(

Thanks for your answer.

[bunyip]

I have my Ofsted poster, reg certificate, insurance, etc, etc. all displayed in a clear plastic hanging thingy which is designed to display A4 sized children's paintings, etc. They're available in some of the EY resources catalogues. I hang it on the door when working, but can remove it anytime, such as when we have visitors. :thumbsup:


...............like anyone would be crazy enough to come here for dinner. :D

[Mouse]

Could you print the post off as A5 size instead of A4?

[vals]

I thought you only have to have the poster and your reg.certificate. I would imagine you can make the poster smaller if you want. I think the best way is to have it hanging so it can be taken down each day. I am a childminder not a nursery lol.

[Tazmin68]

I was led to believe

Ofsted reg certificate
Ofsted poster
Pli certificate
First aid

Deb

[maisiemog]

Only reg certificate and parent poster are legal requirements the rest are good practice though. I really must print my new insurance certificate out to put on my board..only had it since October now!

[kellyskidz!]

Omg what OFSTED poster?!!!!
I don't have one! On my notice board is OFSTED certif, insurance details, 1st aid certif and fire escape plan.
No certificate though?! Where do I get one since I'm now panicking hugely!:panic:

[kellyskidz!]

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/filedownloading/?file=documents/other-forms-and-guides/p/Poster%20for%20parents%20childcare.pdf&refer=0
Is this the one we need? Can't believe I didn't know we had to have one x

[shortstuff]

Yes Kelly that is the one you need x

[yummyripples]

Could you put your notice board by your front door when you are working?

[k-tots]

My certificates are blutac to the wall at the far end of my front room.....u can see it as you close the middle door...once u come in the front door iyswim.....I dont have a notice board...but as my dd6 likes to draw amd put pictures on the wall herself dh is happy for a non permanent one...ie a frame on the wall and pictues up with blutac

[Simona]

http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/filedownloading/?file=documents/other-forms-and-guides/p/Poster%20for%20parents%20childcare.pdf&refer=0
Is this the one we need? Can't believe I didn't know we had to have one x

Panic not...The only new thing on the new poster are the last 2 lines with the Family Information Service number!!!

Ofsted recommend the poster 'SHOULD' be displayed...it does not say MUST
I know we all display it but would it be wrong if we printed one and gave it to the parents?? another issue to interpret and worry about !

Ofsted | Poster for parents: childcare (http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/resources/poster-for-parents-childcare)

[kellyskidz!]

Panic not...The only new thing on the new poster are the last 2 lines with the Family Information Service number!!!

Ofsted recommend the poster 'SHOULD' be displayed...it does not say MUST
I know we all display it but would it be wrong if we printed one and gave it to the parents?? another issue to interpret and worry about !

Ofsted | Poster for parents: childcare (http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/resources/poster-for-parents-childcare)

Thanks :) printed one today to be safe but I was thinking I'd done something wrong in not displaying it to begin with xx

[rickysmiths]

Panic not...The only new thing on the new poster are the last 2 lines with the Family Information Service number!!!

Ofsted recommend the poster 'SHOULD' be displayed...it does not say MUST
I know we all display it but would it be wrong if we printed one and gave it to the parents?? another issue to interpret and worry about !

Ofsted | Poster for parents: childcare (http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/resources/poster-for-parents-childcare)

Interesting. I hadn't thought to do this. Though at the beginning of Ofsted I never had my Certificate on the wall. I used to give a copy to my parents and get them to sign they had had it. That was apparently fine for 10 years and then I was told to have it on the wall! I fail to see who it is on the wall for!!! I know what is on it, I have a copy in the parent information folder I show all prospective parents and all Contracted parents still get a copy of it along with my Ofsted Report. Why on earth we need it on the wall for I have no idea :D

If you have any Assistants, even if you don't pay or employ them, you legally have to display your Employer's Liability Insurance Certificate though there is no requirement to display the PLI Cert.

[k1rstie]

I do not have mine on the wall. It is a very outdated practice.


Please let me share my thoughts.

I have a certificate sent to me by Ofsted.

A year down the line , I decide I do not want to pay my registration fee/insurance/training etc. or something happens, and I am deregistered!

I am now no longer a registered childminder, but I still have my certificate on my wall claiming that I am. Even if Ofsted or local authority asked for the cleric ate back, I could easily have taken a copy!

Parents may think i am a registered childminder because i have my certificate up.


I personally think, that only your online Ofsted details are valid.


I also give my parents a copy of the parents poster when they start.


(Ps - I do keep my certificate and poster as the first two pages of my daily file, so they are easily shown if asked for)

[Simona]

I do not have mine on the wall. It is a very outdated practice.


Please let me share my thoughts.

I have a certificate sent to me by Ofsted.

A year down the line , I decide I do not want to pay my registration fee/insurance/training etc. or something happens, and I am deregistered!

I am now no longer a registered childminder, but I still have my certificate on my wall claiming that I am. Even if Ofsted or local authority asked for the cleric ate back, I could easily have taken a copy!

Parents may think i am a registered childminder because i have my certificate up.


I personally think, that only your online Ofsted details are valid.


I also give my parents a copy of the parents poster when they start.


(Ps - I do keep my certificate and poster as the first two pages of my daily file, so they are easily shown if asked for)

Good points...the info on the Ofsted parents poster or our certificate can easily be found by parents when they log in to the website as you say...that is where I would direct them rather than all this red tape about hanging things on the wall

I have never seen any school display a certificate that tells parents they are 'registered to teach' so why do we have to spell out we are 'registered to care' when all the info and proof is already available?

[cathtee]

I didn't use to display my certificate and on inspection Mrs O picked me up on it and put it as an action, fast forward 3 years to next inspection I still hadn't put it up, Mr O asked about it and said it should be up and was not happy it wasn't as actioned on last inspection, So I got it out in polly pocket and stuck it on a nail:laughing: She was now a happy lady and didn't mark me down for it.

It has been on the same nail for nearly 4 years now (although took it down For Xmas and not gone back up yet oops ) It will go back up Monday and inside it behind certificate is my Ofsted Poster.

[LauraS]

I have the ofsted posted and certificate only. Parent have a copy of my pli, and I have no fire escape map to display. Frankly, if you needed a fire escape map in my house, you'd have bigger problems that a fire to contend with.

[FloraDora]

I didn't use to display my certificate and on inspection Mrs O picked me up on it and put it as an action, fast forward 3 years to next inspection I still hadn't put it up, Mr O asked about it and said it should be up and was not happy it wasn't as actioned on last inspection, So I got it out in polly pocket and stuck it on a nail:laughing: She was now a happy lady and didn't mark me down for it.

It has been on the same nail for nearly 4 years now (although took it down For Xmas and not gone back up yet oops ) It will go back up Monday and inside it behind certificate is my Ofsted Poster.

Now....After my sherry ( see sure start thread!).....I feel a plan....to get a very easy improvement target. On my first inspection....I could not display my certificate....not a difficult target to address!!!!

Love 'the nail' just being there .....it could be a sign of a good childminder for the future ....we all have a spare 'nail' just in case... I am losing it I think...its the holiday experience ...need to get back to work!

Well done for sticking to your guns about a really silly requirement !

[bunyip]

I didn't use to display my certificate and on inspection Mrs O picked me up on it and put it as an action, fast forward 3 years to next inspection I still hadn't put it up, Mr O asked about it and said it should be up and was not happy it wasn't as actioned on last inspection, So I got it out in polly pocket and stuck it on a nail:laughing: She was now a happy lady and didn't mark me down for it.

It has been on the same nail for nearly 4 years now (although took it down For Xmas and not gone back up yet oops ) It will go back up Monday and inside it behind certificate is my Ofsted Poster.

This does seem to be one of Ofsted's "absolute musts" no matter whether we actually have a better way to communicate the same information to parents. I put the Ofsted contact details in various other, more useful, places: child's daily diary, newsletters, complaints policy, questionnaires, prospectus, etc. - you know, the kind of thing they might actually read. Whilst Mrs O liked this, she was also quite clear that I'd have lost marks had I not also had the poster on display. It's like it's on a tick list and if it ain't there, you're in trouble, even if you go to great lengths to convey the information in a better way.

I suspect you could tattoo the image upside down and back to front on a client's retina, and Ofsted would still want to see the s0dding poster with its very "correct" image of 2 oh-so-diversity-balanced children looking rather miserable and confused as to why they've been bunged a couple of instruments to hold until the camera clicks - and when is that faceless nursery assistant going to do something about the mess in the top left of the picture (looks like some child violently dismembered a cushion, or regurgitated sliced bread onto the carpet. :p )

I suspect some Ofsted chief has decreed, "we paid a fortune for that poster: the CMs will ballywell use it OR ELSE."

[lilac_dragon]

I have the ofsted posted and certificate only. Parent have a copy of my pli, and I have no fire escape map to display. Frankly, if you needed a fire escape map in my house, you'd have bigger problems that a fire to contend with.

I don't have a fire escape map either.
I practise fire drill with the los, so we all know how to get out and where. I make a point of telling Mrs O when she comes that if the alarm should go off she can follow us into the garden. I would be tempted to ask her to read the Fire Plan Map (If I had one) and tell her "Memorise it - I'm asking questions later!!"
I don't worry about telling my parents as they come into the Hall, take child out of the front door and go, so never have to know the alternatives. Let alone wander around my house looking for it, finding their glasses, reading it, identifying where they actually ARE on the map so which route of the available 4 would be quickest!
My family live here, so know how to get out of the house in more ways than we practise with the los - including ds who has a flat roof outside his window and can get on there then onto the pergola and down the trellis and dd who can step down from her bedroom window onto the roof of the caravan and then slide off!!!!!!

[Simona]

This does seem to be one of Ofsted's "absolute musts" no matter whether we actually have a better way to communicate the same information to parents. I put the Ofsted contact details in various other, more useful, places: child's daily diary, newsletters, complaints policy, questionnaires, prospectus, etc. - you know, the kind of thing they might actually read. Whilst Mrs O liked this, she was also quite clear that I'd have lost marks had I not also had the poster on display. It's like it's on a tick list and if it ain't there, you're in trouble, even if you go to great lengths to convey the information in a better way.

I suspect you could tattoo the image upside down and back to front on a client's retina, and Ofsted would still want to see the s0dding poster with its very "correct" image of 2 oh-so-diversity-balanced children looking rather miserable and confused as to why they've been bunged a couple of instruments to hold until the camera clicks - and when is that faceless nursery assistant going to do something about the mess in the top left of the picture (looks like some child violently dismembered a cushion, or regurgitated sliced bread onto the carpet. :p )

I suspect some Ofsted chief has decreed, "we paid a fortune for that poster: the CMs will ballywell use it OR ELSE."

Bunyip...a genuine question now.....if it is an absolute MUST why does the Ofsted website say they 'recommend' we display it ...not 'MUST' display it?

English is not my first language but I feel that after 40 years trying to improve my comprehension and fluency I understand the difference between should and must...so back we go to inspectors deciding on their interpretation...I am not surprised that some of us are getting frustrated with the petty rules that no one has the courage to spell out clearly in plain English.

So I would guess most cms will somehow find a niche for the blessed poster which does nothing but repeat what parents already know...when it comes to them making a complaint I doubt they would have referred to the poster first?