does everyone claim back for milk

[ajs]

do all you new or old childminders claim back for milk
as a childminder we are entitled to claim 1/3 of a pint for each child we care for everyday so for each child over 3 days you can claim back the price of 1 pint.

my milkman has just put up his prices to .90p a litre which means my claim comes to £47.52 for the last 3 months
that's not bad is it for just filling in a form

for more information

health depts reimbursement unit
po box 504
leicester
LE94 0AE

or call 08707 203063 to register

[Polly2]

I am glad you reminded me about this.
I have been meaning to get around to finding out - I didn't realise you could claim so much - thats brilliant!

Is it the same number for Wales do you think?

[angeldelight]

It might be a different number Holly but you could always call them I bet they could give you your local number

Angel xx

[Polly2]

Yes they might

I might try ringing local county council number if not

[LittleMissSparkles]

i didnt know that but get mine from the supermarket not delivered, we do have milkman come round here though s worth lookinginto maybe xxx

thanks Mandy xxx

[Banana]

Yes i knew about this and have tried repeatedly to get the forms.

I have spoken the the call centre in excess of 7 times and given my details each time and they have told me the forms will be posted and they never arrive!!

Im sick of trying! I dont know how difficult it can be to put something in the post.
x
x

[fionamal]

I now claim for the milk but it took me 4 months of trying to get registered with them. I ended up writing to them and that seemed to work.

As Tesco says " Every little Helps" especially since the price of milk has gone up.

They are very quick at paying you once they have received your claim. At most takes 2 weeks to get paid.

On average I claim £42 every 3 months.

[sarah707]

I claim... until recently though I was getting it wrong in my books...

You need to put your milk purchases through your books with food etc as expenses... then your claim amount through your books as income. I was forgetting to claim expenses - what a twit!! :blush:

[ruby]

hi polly 2
the number you need for claiming milk is
nursery milk helpline 08707 203063 i needed to send them a copy of our registration certificate saying how many children under 5 we have 5 so it
works out about £80.00 for the 4 months worth claiming
they will send you a claim form which you send back every 4 months easy to fill out


cathy

[Polly2]

Oh thankyou Cathy

I will ring them today :thumbsup:

[LittleMissSparkles]

do you have to get it from a milk man ???

[ruby]

not as far as i know i get mine because i find it easier as we use rather a lot
and i know that if we run out i will always have some in the morning.

cathy

[carolinel]

do you have to get it from a milk man ???

I wouldn't think so Susan - shouldn't matter where you get it from, but i would imagine you would have to keep receipt

[LittleMissSparkles]

will phone tommorow then to register to claim it back, thank you once again ladies xxx

[ajs]

no you don't have to get it from a milk man but i just happen to and you don't even have to keep receipts other than the initial claim one.
my milk man is so expensive that if i wasn't claiming it back i would never use him .90 a litre it's about 82 in the supermarket but that of course is what the supermarkets are being investigated about.

good luck it's worth the small amount of paperwork every 4 months

[Pauline]

I claim it and although the forms seem complicated it's well worth the effort.

I asked for the claim forms by email and they arrived within days but I have heard of people having problems.

[gailee]

hi i tired claiming i filled in the form sent it off and heard nothing since then been 3 months might have to phone them see whats happening !!

[Pauline]

If you want their email address is is:

WFRU@mrm.co.uk

:)

[Monkey1]

Thank you ladies! i had compleatly forgotten about this. I have just spoken to someone and as i claimed it (ages ago) i can backdate it to march 2006!

[weeteeny]

thanks for that!!

just emailed them.:thumbsup:

[susi513]

Didn't know the email address, well done Pauline. I had to write in the end as nothing came of my phone calls.

I was told to keep all receipts as they can ask to see these, as well as related attendance records to prove you've actually provided the milk you've claimed for? Although I don't know anyone who's actually had to show a receipt, so maybe its changed?

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[nat1664]

I have just rang them..thanks :)

Nat

[buildingblocks]

It was too much like hard work for me and I didn't see the point. I buy full fat milk specially for the children so I claim the whole amount through my books.

Okay obviously I am missing something here can someone explain thebenefits of this as I can't understand it.

I buy my milk and put it though my books as normal.
Then I claim x amount back and put that through as income on which I will get taxed.

How does this benefit me please as very tired and confused and don't understand it.

I am also very jealous of those of you with milkmen. I used to have mine delivered but they cut the delivery to two days a week so absolutely no use for me.

[gailee]

hi i've just had 2 emails from the people that sort out payment for the milk they haven't received my claim from last year ? so they are sending out new forms the question is what kind of information do they need?? i buy my milk from morrisons but i buy for the week and for the family to so i buy 5 x 6pints a week??? they say it can be back dated ?? so do they need proof of purchase or just how many children i've had over the years?? i've never claimed i've been minding for nearly 4 years gailx:D

[ma7ie]

Welfare Food Scheme
NURSERY MILK GUIDE for providers of day care for children under five
Introduction
The Health Department’s Welfare Food Scheme enables children
under five to receive, free of charge, 189ml (one third of a pint) of
milk for each day they attend approved day care facilities for two
hours or more. Babies aged under one may instead receive infant
formula milk (dried baby milk) made up to 189ml (one third of a
pint). Day care providers who have been approved to supply milk
under the Scheme can be reimbursed the cost of the milk they
supply.
This guide is intended to assist day care providers to qualify and
claim reimbursement under the Scheme – it explains which day
care providers qualify and, in general terms, the way in which the
Scheme is administered.
The legislation under which the Welfare Food Scheme (nursery milk)
is set up is Section 13 of the Social Security Act 1988 and the
Welfare Food Regulations 1996. This guide is neither comprehensive
nor a definitive interpretation of the law – only the courts can give that
– but it aims to help you understand the provisions of the Scheme
and your obligations if you wish to take part.
Approval of day care providers and reimbursement are handled by
WFRU – the Welfare Food Reimbursement Unit – on behalf of the
Health Departments of England, Scotland and Wales. (Northern
Ireland has its own separate arrangements.) If you have any
queries regarding approval, payments, require a copy of this guide
or an application form for the Scheme, please contact:
WFRU, PO Box 31048
London SW1V 2FE
Telephone: 08707-20-30-63 Fax: 020-7887-1258

Who qualifies for supplying milk under the Scheme
In general terms, you can apply to take part in the Scheme if you are:
• A childminder or day care provider registered under the

Children Act 1989;
• A local authority which provides day care;
• Providing day care to children under five in schools or play

centres that are exempt from registration under the Children Act
1989;
• Providing day care in a nursery or crèche for the children (under

five years old) of persons carrying on or employed to work at
that establishment and staff of certain establishments (for
example, children’s homes, voluntary or community homes,
NHS hospitals) which are exempt from registration under the
Children Act 1989.
NOTE: Day care provided for less than two hours in a day does
not qualify for approval under the Scheme. Parents and relatives of
the child and privately employed nannies are not eligible under the
Scheme.
What type of milk can be supplied under the Scheme
Milk means heat-treated (e.g. pasteurised) liquid cow’s milk. It
includes whole and semi-skimmed milk. It does not include milk
with flavours, colours, added vitamins or any other additions. It
does not include fully skimmed milk, goat’s milk, soya milk or
unpasteurised milk.
Infant formula or ‘dried milk’ for babies under one means one of
the following brands:
• Aptamil 1st
• Aptamil Extra
• Cow and Gate Premium
• Cow and Gate Plus
• Farleys 1
• Farleys 2
• Hipp Organic
• Milumil
• SMA Gold
• SMA White.


It does not include follow-on milk, ready-to-feed milk or any other
brand.
How the Scheme works
Applying to take part in the Scheme
If you wish to take part, you must first be approved by WFRU
before you can receive payment for the milk that you supply.
NOTE: Reimbursement will not be made for any milk provided
before the date of approval.
Contact WFRU for a Supplier Application Form. Send your
completed form promptly to WFRU. If you are registered with Her
Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Schools in England, the Welsh
Assembly or a Social Work Department in Scotland as a
registered childminder or registered day care provider, you should
enclose with your application a photocopy of your Certificate of
Registration, including the section showing the maximum number
of children aged under five for whom you are registered. (If you
are responsible for day care at an establishment which is exempt
from registration, please ensure your application is accompanied
by written details.) Keep a copy of the completed form in case of
queries. If your application is successful, WFRU will register you
under the Scheme and will send you the forms to claim
reimbursement.
Claiming reimbursement
You may claim reimbursement for each child aged under five who
is in your care for two hours or more per day and who is supplied
with 189ml (one third of a pint) of milk or, where supplied in 200ml
containers only, with 200ml of milk. For any child aged under one,
you may instead claim for dried baby milk made up to 189ml (one
third of a pint) as instructed on the pack.
At the end of each four-month period, you should send a
completed claim form to WFRU. Please make sure that you give
all the information asked for on the form as this will speed up the
processing of your claim.
Read the declaration on the claim form carefully. If all the details
on the form are complete and correct you should sign it. Keep a
copy of the completed form.

If you have any query about your claim, contact WFRU.
EC School Milk Subsidy If you are eligible for this Subsidy, you should claim it and deduct
the amount of the Subsidy from the cost of the milk you have
supplied. For more information about the EC School Milk Subsidy,
please contact:
The Rural Payments Agency
School Milk Section
PO Box 277
Exeter EX5 1WB
Helpline: 01392 266 466
Fax: 01392 266 489
Email: dairysubsidyschemes@rpa.gsi.gov.uk
Website: www.rpa.gov.uk
How WFRU will deal with your claim
WFRU will check your claim to see that it is consistent with your
registration details and is otherwise correct. Once the claim is
processed, payment will be made by BACS (Banker’s Automated
Clearing Service).
All claims must be submitted within 2 years.
Obtaining milk
You should obtain milk and infant formula (dried baby milk) from
your local suppliers at the best price. Wherever possible obtain
receipts for your purchases. Retain them until your claim has been
paid, as you may be asked to send proof of purchase and price
paid to WFRU in support of your claim.
Obligations of approved day care providers
You may only claim reimbursement for milk actually supplied to
children in your care. The Health Departments may require the
production of records or other documentary evidence to support
claims for reimbursement. WFRU can withdraw approval if it
ceases to be satisfied that you are making adequate
arrangements for the provision of milk or dried baby milk under the
Welfare Food Scheme or if you cease to be an approved day care
provider.

Changes in your day care arrangements
If there are any changes in the day care arrangements that you
provide or any details affecting payments, you must notify WFRU
immediately.
Changes in the Welfare Food Scheme
If the Welfare Food Scheme changes, this guide will be updated. If
you are a registered supplier when changes are being made, you
may receive additional guidance to explain what is happening.
End.

This might help

Marie x

[gailee]

omg a little light reading then, thanks for that marie bet your fingers hurt after typing that lot ???
ok i think i've got it? i can claim back 2 years ?? cool every little bit helps!! thanks gail

[ajs]

omg a little light reading then, thanks for that marie bet your fingers hurt after typing that lot ???
ok i think i've got it? i can claim back 2 years ?? cool every little bit helps!! thanks gail

hi you can only claim for 2 years after you're registered so sorry you can't back date it

in short you get 1/3 of a pint for each child that you mind under 5 a day so that's 3 1/3 a day = a pint of milk at a cost of say between 40 and 50p per day and times it by20 working days and 4 months = approximately 32.00 per claim as sarah says you put the expense through the books as an expense whether you've bought it for you or the minded kids and the income through the books as an income and bobs your uncle

[hello kitty]

Hi all, sorry still not clear - as I have been minding for 7 years are you saying I should have claimed for this within my first two years of minding. Or can I still claim back 2 years worth of milk? Thanks for your help.

[gailee]

hi well i had a email back from the wfru and they are sending out the forms for 2 years ! so i think you can ? i still haven't received my form from them yet its been a week so i might have to re-email them again? gail

[staciew1985]

only just seen this and i have been after this number since i registered to claim bk coz the one i was given on my course wasn't reconisable so haven't been able to get in touch. thanks for posting xxx

[gailee]

hi just a update i've had my forms and they are back dating it the 2 years so hopefully getting the money back soon :jump for joy:

[button68]

It was too much like hard work for me and I didn't see the point. I buy full fat milk specially for the children so I claim the whole amount through my books.

Okay obviously I am missing something here can someone explain thebenefits of this as I can't understand it.

I buy my milk and put it though my books as normal.
Then I claim x amount back and put that through as income on which I will get taxed.

How does this benefit me please as very tired and confused and don't understand it.

I am also very jealous of those of you with milkmen. I used to have mine delivered but they cut the delivery to two days a week so absolutely no use for me.

Yes can someone explain this to me too?? :idea:

[sarah707]

I used to claim... but I have found it's just too much like hard work so for the first time last month, I put the forms through the shredder...

I feel very liberated! :D

[peggy]

do all you new or old childminders claim back for milk
as a childminder we are entitled to claim 1/3 of a pint for each child we care for everyday so for each child over 3 days you can claim back the price of 1 pint.

my milkman has just put up his prices to .90p a litre which means my claim comes to £47.52 for the last 3 months
that's not bad is it for just filling in a form

for more information

health depts reimbursement unit
po box 504
leicester
LE94 0AE

or call 08707 203063 to register

I have the form, filled in and....forgot all about sending it off! Thanks for the reminder!

[jus]

Hi Guy's, I sent for the form filled it in and sent it with copy of registration certificate didn't here anything :mad: sent a fax but sill haven't heard anything, pauline give the e-mail address so I will be sending e-mail to see if I here anything. It must be over a month I sent the form back. jus

[teacake2]

Hi I claim for my milk (from the supermarket) because as the saying goes if you don't use it you will lose it or something like that, and for a little bit of paperwork it is nice to have a little bit of money at the end of the four months for a change instead of paying out all of the time.

Teacake2:laughing:

[gailee]

well today i got my milk claim sorted and its been back dated from january 2006 how cool is that just over £100 straight into the bank :clapping:

[Banana]

Thats good then!!

Maybe i shoud have another go!! :rolleyes:

xx

[tinkerbell_85]

i'll be keeping this in mind!!! few extra bits of paper work, seems worth it!

[lindylou]

I have been claiming for the last 15 years and it comes in quite handy and dont forget if you have different children afternoon and morning you can claim for them both .
Its quite nice when you get the cheque
Linxx

[Heaven Scent]

Oh I rang tghe number in the NCMA handbook to request a form around Christmas and they sent me the wrong one - they sent me one for a supplier of milk or fruit for a sure start scheme - don't ask me I'm tired now. Anyway I rang someone the day I joined up here and they put me on to somone else who said they'd send out the forms and I've not received them yet so now that I'm armed with all this information I am going to get straight on to it tomorrow so thanks all.

Sarah you do surprise me - is your love for paperwork fading??? - be careful.

Celine

[Tily Bud]

i might do that too , does it even its self out . what i mean is are the amounts that you claim for milk roughly the same as the amount you get back ? and do you think its worth doing it ?

[gailee]

well every penny counts as they say!! paper work is easy when you get the both sides of it and not the 1 side?? ( they sent me thru email just the 1 side so no wonder i couldn't work it out first time around!!! it took less then 2 weeks to go into my account after i sent the forms back..:D and yes i got every penny that i claimed back

[childminder54]

thanks for reminding me i have not put a claim in for about 2 years , when you have to claim every 4 months you forget i will have to check when i last claimed...

thanks

veronicaxxx:clapping: :clapping:

[susi513]

theres a couple of posts from people reluctant to claim because the income will be taxable.

But its not really because:

you buy 1 pint of milk for childminding for use on Monday. You have 3 mindees present, they get 1/3 each.

You put through the cost of 1 pint as an expense in your books.
You claim the cost of 1 pint and put through the amount you receive in your books as income.
So the taxman sees
(income = cost of 1 pint) less (expenditure = cost of one pint) leaves you with £zero profit to be taxed.

What you gain is that you have provided 1 pint of milk and have not had to pay for it. (okay you did, but you got your money back). And in practice, its likely you will have bought more milk than you can claim for in which case your books would show a loss in respect of milk purchases even with the reimbursements, and a loss will reduce your tax.

If you are still happy to turn away milk reimbursements to keep your tax down, would you also turn away childminding fees? They definitely increase your tax bill lol!

[Michelle M]

I havent been claiming milk back, thank you for pointing this out to me. I have sent them an email so will see what happens. Thank you

[TillyTwinkle]

Many thanks ladies - i wasn't even aware we could claim back on milk!

Is it just for those mindees under 5? I only have the one mindee under 5 but the older ones drink buckets of the stuff....may be cheaper just to buy my own dairy cow!! :laughing:

Have just this minute called them and woman said to except the forms within 7-10 days!!

Tilly.xx

[childminder54]

ive been claiming milk back, but have not done it since 2006 they have sent me back dated forms to claim. has anybody got the prices for the milk from 2006-2008

thanks veronicaxxx

[Hannahlg]

We claim for milk,

well my dada a milkman he sorts it all out.

but me and mum dont pay my dad for the milk like, he just brings it

[Eagles4ever]

but surely if you just put milk through as an expense then it reduces your taxable income so you pay less tax, whereas if you claim the milk and end up with a nil amount as someone said earlier, you will pay more tax???

I'm confused (and don't like giving the tax man my money!!!)

Sue x

[Hannahlg]

dont have a clue that my dad area

havent i see you Eagles4ever on the NVQ froum?

[christine e]

If you want their email address is is:

WFRU@mrm.co.uk

:)

Thanks for that Pauline. In the last few days I have received a letter from WFRU asking for me to reapply to bring them up to date etc. I tried to e mail them to ask for a new claim form using the e mail address on the letter and it keeps coming back to me undelivered. The e mail they quote is similar to the one you state but not the same so I have e mailed them again using the one above.
Christine

[christine e]

theres a couple of posts from people reluctant to claim because the income will be taxable.

But its not really because:

you buy 1 pint of milk for childminding for use on Monday. You have 3 mindees present, they get 1/3 each.

You put through the cost of 1 pint as an expense in your books.
You claim the cost of 1 pint and put through the amount you receive in your books as income.
So the taxman sees
(income = cost of 1 pint) less (expenditure = cost of one pint) leaves you with £zero profit to be taxed.

What you gain is that you have provided 1 pint of milk and have not had to pay for it. (okay you did, but you got your money back). And in practice, its likely you will have bought more milk than you can claim for in which case your books would show a loss in respect of milk purchases even with the reimbursements, and a loss will reduce your tax.

If you are still happy to turn away milk reimbursements to keep your tax down, would you also turn away childminding fees? They definitely increase your tax bill lol!

Don't forget that you are allowed 10% wear and tear on income so you claim for your milk then get reimbursed but you then claim 10% of the reimbursement as wear and tear against tax!
Christine