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jelly15
11-09-2012, 01:57 PM
CM friend has a mum who wants her DS(31months) to go nappy less when at her setting. He wees in his pants but goes to the potty when he has no nappy on. Obviously this is not on but she is rather persistant, how best is it to so a firm but polite no and professionally putting the reasons across.

moogster1a
11-09-2012, 02:07 PM
can he not just have nothing on his bottom half when in the house? Sounds like he'd be OK with that, then just put a nappy on when out and about if needs be.
I have 2 little ones with their bottoms out at the moment and they never wee on the floor, always in the potty.
At 31 months sounds like mum is about spot on for the age of starting potty training.
What is it that CM friend finds "not on"

Mouse
11-09-2012, 02:14 PM
I don't have bare bottomed children in the house. I don't want them sitting on furniture, toys etc. It's my house & I don't want it, so it doesn't happen.

I don't mind them in just pants, or at the moment I have one in just trousers, but they always have something on.

My way of looking at it is that they have to get used to wearing clothes out of their home at some time, at being at my house isn't their home. They might as well get used to it from the beginning :thumbsup:

I would say to mum that due to hygiene reasons you cannot have a child in the house with nothing on at all. Explain what you will do - make sure the potty is easily accessible, remind lo to use it, help with clothing if they need it etc.

rickysmiths
11-09-2012, 02:42 PM
Not just hygiene reasons, for their own dignity as well.

I agree no bare bottoms.

I insist that if they are ready to potty train they learn from day one to pull their own pants and trousers down and up so I ask for soft stretchy top bottoms and NO belts. I don't mind adjusting, but they have to do it themselves. If they can't then I won't continue until they can.

I don't do potties either. Disgusting things and not possible when there are three children running around. They go straight onto the toilet.

I only use a travel potty when out.

moogster1a
11-09-2012, 03:07 PM
I get the thinking that some people might not want bare bottoms for hygiene reasons, but to preserve dignity? Really? When you've spent however many times lifting their legs up and giving bottoms a really good wipe?
Remember, these are toddlers, and once toilet trained will need their bottoms checking and wiping for a long time yet to check they are clean.
Bare bottoms on babies and toddlers are cute and I think it very odd to imply they need privacy at that age. ( I don't even get that as they often come to watch me having a wee; i think it's a good way for them to learn how to use a toilet. All babies learn best by copying)

hectors house
11-09-2012, 03:40 PM
I have one here in just pants today - first day of potty training and doing well so far, mum going to stay home Wed and Thur and carry on - thought we would crack it before the weather changes, child is 26 months, very bright and does communicate well.

I insist they wear pants and if they can't pull pants up and down they aren't ready - if I notice their pants are wet or hopefully they tell me, I can search for the puddle, if they haven't got pants on especially boys they could have weed up the curtains for all I know (and I wouldn't until it started to whiff).

I have just bought a toilet type potty in Asda sale - looks like mini toilet with a lid that shuts down to stop others playing with it, has a bowl under the seat (like a commode) you take out and empty. The seat can also be used as a toilet seat and the whole thing can be used as a step when lid is shut.

I find it easier to have a potty in the lounge, will get moved to just outside door then closer to downstairs loo door as I can't be running back and forward along the hall with other two escaping out the door and following me. Also this one seems more sturdy than last one, not so likely to tip and spill contents!

I do think we should preserve dignity where possible - what parents do with their children in their own homes is up to them, but at my house with frequent visitors ie: mindees parents, my teenage daughter and her friends (boys and girls), my own parents - I do believe in dignity and modesty. I I was taught this years ago on the childminding Certificate in Childminding Practice course. Sometimes children do come in the loo with me but when I take them swimming I am very careful to ensure I cover up with my towel as much as possible.

PixiePetal
11-09-2012, 03:44 PM
sorry but no bare bottoms here either.

I don't want bare behinds on my furniture and as they will need to go out with clothes may as well start here. If they are weeing when they have pants on all the time, maybe they are not quite ready?

hard to tell as every child is different, but anyway - no bare bottoms :)

appleblossom
11-09-2012, 06:55 PM
No bare bottoms here. They have to at least have pants or trousers with no pants. I had an allegation against me some years ago when a child scratched his bottom on something when changing his own wet clothes. It's too easy for scratches etc. to occur in the nappy area if they are bare. The risk to ourselves is just not worth it. I'd just say no.

miffy
11-09-2012, 07:06 PM
No bare bottoms here either, don't mind just pants or trousers with no pants but definitely must have something on.

Miffy xx

VeggieSausage
11-09-2012, 07:35 PM
I had one who asked if child on day 1 of potty training could wear nothing in my house....NOOOOOOOO!

mum24
11-09-2012, 08:11 PM
No bare bottoms in my house either, except on the odd occasion when one lo used to get terrible nappy rash. Even too young to potty train I would give her time with no nappy on to let her skin breathe. I have a room divider I used to separate my carpeted area from cushion floor and she stayed on the cushion floor area.
I don't do potties, I think they are unhygienic. How does one clean them? I have only a small hand basin in my downstairs toilet certainly not big enough to rinse a potty, and no way is a potty getting near my kitchen sink!
Genuinely Seriously, how do you keep a potty clean? I honestly don't know.
I have four children and they all went to the toilet from the first day of training, step and small toilet seat, job done.

Mouse
11-09-2012, 08:28 PM
Genuinely Seriously, how do you keep a potty clean? I honestly don't know.
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It's not that difficult :p

When the children have used a potty downstairs I carry it upstairs, tip the contents down the toilet, wipe it with toilet roll if I need to, wash it in hot water in the sink, spray it with antibac spray & leave it to dry...quite simple really :thumbsup:

Sarahbelle
11-09-2012, 08:32 PM
Not just hygiene reasons, for their own dignity as well.

I agree no bare bottoms.

I insist that if they are ready to potty train they learn from day one to pull their own pants and trousers down and up so I ask for soft stretchy top bottoms and NO belts. I don't mind adjusting, but they have to do it themselves. If they can't then I won't continue until they can.

I don't do potties either. Disgusting things and not possible when there are three children running around. They go straight onto the toilet.

I only use a travel potty when out.

So agree with you Rickysmith.:thumbsup:

tialil
11-09-2012, 10:20 PM
No bare bums here either . Ok yes when they are stripping off and running from the toilet lol but pants, trainers pants, tights or joggers are on.

Several reasons, if they have a poo at least its caught in the pants. I dont want bare bums on ride ons and toys. Also I have 2 teenage boys who bless them dont like seeing me changing bums let alone seeing kiddies running around bare bummed. They have practically grown up with me childminding but still get a bit embrassed of which direction to look while we do nappies.

I had a heated discussion regarding bare bums with a parent last year while their child was ''ready'' to be potty trained, then a few days later admitted to child going around house and pooing in everything and anything ,at least with bottoms on of some discription mess is less and easier to catch ;) :thumbsup:

As for toilet, toilet trainer seat or potty , thats down to what the child is comfortable with but I do try to enocourage them to use the loo as soon as they happy to.

At the end of the day its your friends setting and its down to her :)

ziggy
12-09-2012, 07:50 AM
A friend of mine told me many years ago that boys do better at potty training if they wear boxer type pants rather than tight pants. Could he maybe wear shorts rather than nothing at all?

AliceK
12-09-2012, 09:06 AM
I had a parent ask me if their child could have nothing on bottom half when here. I told her No. Safeguarding as well as hygiene. What if someone comes to my door and LO is standing in hallway with nothing on. Also I am always taking photos of the children. Most of the day I am snapping away. How can I do that if one of them has nothing on their bottom half. No, I'm afraid we are too vulnerable as it is and I'm not taking unnecessary risks :panic:

xxxx

tess1981
12-09-2012, 09:16 AM
I had a parent ask me if their child could have nothing on bottom half when here. I told her No. Safeguarding as well as hygiene. What if someone comes to my door and LO is standing in hallway with nothing on. Also I am always taking photos of the children. Most of the day I am snapping away. How can I do that if one of them has nothing on their bottom half. No, I'm afraid we are too vulnerable as it is and I'm not taking unnecessary risks :panic:

xxxx

this is the main reason I insist the child wears at least pants while potty training. The child does not care who sees they in all their glory but the postman or delivery guy never knows what way to look :blush:

moogster1a
12-09-2012, 09:34 AM
The child does not care who sees they in all their glory but the postman or delivery guy never knows what way to look really? You have adults come to the door who are embarassed/ uncomfortable about seeing nude toddler bums? How odd.

hectors house
12-09-2012, 10:35 AM
I find your comments on child nudity in a professional childcare setting "odd" - have you attended a Safeguarding course recently?

tess1981
12-09-2012, 10:37 AM
you know what some men like :)

have seen it happen in my friends house it tends to be the adults embarrassed:blush:

nipper
12-09-2012, 10:52 AM
Just to agree with everyone else, no bare bottoms here either. They have to be able to pull up/down pants and trousers/leggings/skirts. The thought of someone walking past my house, looking in and seeing bare bums is just too much to contemplate.:panic:
I don't see how you can monitor their toiletting if they have no wet clothes to prove they have wet themselves. You hear of kids weeing up the back of sofas or behind curtains and all sorts.

Barbaraj
12-09-2012, 12:14 PM
There is no option but to use a well cleaned potty in my house as i have no downstairs toilet. Not leaving kids every 5 mins to escort toddler upstairs.